From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Theodore Tso Subject: Re: Considering teaching plumbing to users harmful Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:47:35 -0400 Message-ID: <20080717024735.GA23896@mit.edu> References: <32541b130807161053w24a21d7bh1fa800a714ce75db@mail.gmail.com> <7v7iblsnfh.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> <32541b130807161151x19c20f9t91b7fb9b8c7b8c7b@mail.gmail.com> <7vmykhr6h1.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> <32541b130807161229ob4c21cbsc6c86ee3e42c4101@mail.gmail.com> <20080716224954.GL2167@mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Avery Pennarun , Junio C Hamano , git@vger.kernel.org To: Johannes Schindelin X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Thu Jul 17 04:49:04 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KJJYG-00064i-8t for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:49:04 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760170AbYGQCrn (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:47:43 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753813AbYGQCrn (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:47:43 -0400 Received: from www.church-of-our-saviour.ORG ([69.25.196.31]:42862 "EHLO thunker.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1760166AbYGQCrm (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:47:42 -0400 Received: from root (helo=closure.thunk.org) by thunker.thunk.org with local-esmtp (Exim 4.50 #1 (Debian)) id 1KJJWq-0000Cu-TA; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:47:36 -0400 Received: from tytso by closure.thunk.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KJJWp-0006X9-Ri; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:47:35 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@mit.edu X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on thunker.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 02:25:05AM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > Well, rev-parse is one of my pet peeves this day. rev-parse is _nothing_ > but plumbing. Actually the the git man page doesn't list rev-parse as plumbing. :-) > Actually, the problem arose with a few "tutorials" on the web, and their > creators violently arguing for their ways (and me being more and more > uncertain if they are wrong or me). I know you don't like hearing about SVN, but normally the tutorials I tend to point people to, in addition to the standard official git tutorial and git's user manual, are these two web pages. First I tell people to read first part of: http://utsl.gen.nz/talks/git-svn/intro.html which covers the git "philosophy" very nicely, up to the point where it starts talking about the "git svn" command, and then I tell them to go read: http://git.or.cz/course/svn.html There are no git plumbing commands in either of those two web pages, because most SVN users would run screaming if they were given a tutorial that talked about git-read-tree or git-commit-tree. :-) - Ted