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From: Miklos Vajna <vmiklos@frugalware.org>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Re* [GIT PULL] sh updates for 2.6.25
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:38:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080417213801.GL23696@genesis.frugalware.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7v3aplr2pt.fsf_-_@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org>

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On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:58:54PM -0700, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> When one adopts the notion of "a single line at the top summarizes what
> the commit is about", it is very natural to call that a "title", and
> having a blank line between the title and the body to separate them also
> becomes natural, and it matches how a patch is presented in email, as a
> bonus, so it matches people's expectation.
> 
> So this format is merely a convention when viewed at the "plumbing" level,
> but it is more important than just a convention if you are living at the
> "Porcelain" level; if you deviate from that, "Porcelain" would not work
> very well for you.

I understand this, my only problem is that some project does not use an
empty line after the "title". Consider a commit message like:

----
Change foo to bar
- this patch changes foo to bar becase of baz
- ok devel1@, devel2@
----

Given that a project uses such a commit message style, the newlines are
removed when applying with git am, but the commit still has a title.

> People who are used to other systems without a good history summarization
> tools can and do write such log messages.  People who make commits on such
> systems whose commits are imported to git (perhaps even without them
> knowing about it) do not have an incentive to use a short-and-clear single
> line summary in each of their commits, as their system may not give a good
> way to make use of the result of such a practice.

That makes sense, but those commits are unlikely transferred using
format-patch+am. :)

> These days, format-patch was taught to use "the first paragraph" as the
> summarizing first line to avoid chomping a sentence in the middle.  This
> change did not hurt people who use git "Porcelain", as the commit log
> message for them is always "a single line summary, a blank line, and the
> body".  The first paragraph is the same as the first line for them.  But
> for commits that have a multi-line paragraph at the beginning, information
> lossage is avoided this way.  Now the first chunk of the message, even if
> it is splattered over two physical lines, is used as the summary.

I see. If I'm right, then basically the old behaviour is what I want. At
least after a

git reset --hard 4234a76167b12a7669dae0e6386c62e712b9dcf5^

I get the behaviour I wished. :)

(Well, almost. It inserts a newline after the first line but that's far
better than stripping all the newlines.)

Would you accept a patch that would make this configurable?

> So in short, when you use "am", it by design unfolds the "Subject: " line
> and there is no bug there.  "rebase" being implemented in terms of
> "format-patch piped to am" does mangle the message because of this, but
> if anything that is a bug in rebase, and not "am".

Yes, that's an other issue.

Thanks.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-04-17 21:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20080415172333.GA29489@linux-sh.org>
2008-04-15 18:01 ` [GIT PULL] sh updates for 2.6.25 Linus Torvalds
2008-04-15 18:18   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-15 18:30   ` Paul Mundt
2008-04-15 19:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-16 18:54       ` Alex Riesen
2008-04-16 20:02       ` Junio C Hamano
2008-04-16 20:17         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-15 18:41   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-04-15 18:43   ` Jakub Narebski
2008-04-16  0:37     ` Miklos Vajna
2008-04-16  1:06       ` [PATCH] format-patch: Make sure the subject is always a one-liner Miklos Vajna
2008-04-16  3:25       ` [GIT PULL] sh updates for 2.6.25 Junio C Hamano
2008-04-16  8:44         ` Miklos Vajna
2008-04-16 19:58           ` Re* " Junio C Hamano
2008-04-16 20:22             ` Jakub Narebski
2008-04-17 21:38             ` Miklos Vajna [this message]
2008-04-27 19:04   ` David Woodhouse

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