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From: Pierre Habouzit <madcoder@debian.org>
To: Nicolas Vilz <niv@iaglans.de>
Cc: "Thomas Harning Jr." <harningt@gmail.com>,
	martin f krafft <madduck@madduck.net>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Francis Moreau <francis.moro@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Track /etc directory using Git
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 16:29:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070915142932.GB27494@artemis.corp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070914212643.GA10970@amy.inscure.wireless.home.vilz.de>

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On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 09:26:43PM +0000, Nicolas Vilz wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 01:31:06PM -0400, Thomas Harning Jr. wrote:
> > On 9/14/07, martin f krafft <madduck@madduck.net> wrote:
> > > also sprach Francis Moreau <francis.moro@gmail.com> [2007.09.14.1008 +0200]:
> > > > Did you find an alternative to git in this case ?
> > >
> > > No, and I did not look anywhere, but I know of no other VCS that can
> > > adequatly track permissions.
> > Has anyone checked out metastore?  http://repo.or.cz/w/metastore.git
> > ... there's an XML error in there somewhere, so its not loading the
> > 'main' page, but http://repo.or.cz/w/metastore.git?a=shortlog should
> > work.
> > 
> > It looks like it could work.... any thoughts on this?
> 
> I use that tool. If you just have one branch, it works. With the
> commit-hook, which also updates the metadata, you have current
> permission tracking. 
> 
> There is a lack of a checkout-hook, which sets the permissions, so you
> have to remeber todo a metastore -a after you checked out a revision.

  Note that having metastore run by a hook makes it unsuitable for /etc
versioning, because you may have short period of times during which
s3kr3t files are readable by more people that what it should be.

  The sole sane way to do that would be to track permissions, acls,
whatever _in_ git. Though, I'm still not convinced that it is such a
good idea at all. I mean for source code you absolutely _don't_ want git
to track permissions (outside from the +x bit). You don't want git to
try to chown your files to "madcoder:madcoder" because I was the last
one committing. So that would mean that you want sometimes to track
permissions, sometimes not. So you need a bunch of tools to list files
whose permissions have to be tracked, and whose permissions don't need
to be.

  I fear that you'll end up with quite a big bloat of git, for a use
case that is fairly limited.

-- 
·O·  Pierre Habouzit
··O                                                madcoder@debian.org
OOO                                                http://www.madism.org

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-15 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <38b2ab8a0709130511q7a506c5cvb0f8785a1d7ed7ad@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <20070913123137.GA31735@piper.oerlikon.madduck.net>
     [not found]   ` <38b2ab8a0709140108v2a9c3569i93b39f351f1d4ec3@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <20070914091545.GA26432@piper.oerlikon.madduck.net>
2007-09-14 17:31       ` Track /etc directory using Git Thomas Harning Jr.
2007-09-14 21:26         ` Nicolas Vilz
2007-09-15 14:29           ` Pierre Habouzit [this message]
2007-09-15 15:24             ` martin f krafft
2007-09-15 15:27               ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-09-15 15:42                 ` martin f krafft
2007-09-15 13:26         ` metastore (was: Track /etc directory using Git) martin f krafft
2007-09-15 14:10           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-09-15 14:16             ` metastore David Kastrup
2007-09-15 14:54             ` metastore (was: Track /etc directory using Git) martin f krafft
2007-09-15 16:22               ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2007-09-15 17:43                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-09-15 23:33                 ` metastore Randal L. Schwartz
2007-09-16  0:37                   ` metastore david
2007-09-16  1:10                     ` metastore Randal L. Schwartz
2007-09-16  1:49                       ` metastore david
2007-09-17 13:04                   ` metastore Francis Moreau
2007-09-17 15:32                     ` metastore Randal L. Schwartz
2007-09-15 19:56               ` metastore (was: Track /etc directory using Git) Daniel Barkalow
2007-09-15 22:14                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-09-16  1:30                   ` david
2007-09-16  2:48                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-09-16  3:00                       ` david
2007-09-16  8:06                     ` metastore Junio C Hamano
2007-09-16  8:30                       ` metastore David Kastrup
2007-09-16 20:19                         ` metastore david
2007-09-16 15:51                       ` metastore Daniel Barkalow
2007-09-16 21:12                         ` metastore david
2007-09-16 21:28                           ` metastore Junio C Hamano
2007-09-16 21:45                             ` metastore Daniel Barkalow
2007-09-16 21:53                             ` metastore david
2007-09-16 22:02                           ` metastore Daniel Barkalow
2007-09-16 22:37                             ` metastore david
2007-09-17 13:30                               ` metastore martin f krafft
2007-09-17 17:17                                 ` metastore david
2007-09-17 19:46                                   ` metastore Josh England
2007-09-16 21:45                       ` metastore david
2007-09-16 22:11                         ` metastore Junio C Hamano
2007-09-16 22:52                           ` metastore david
2007-09-17  0:58                             ` metastore Junio C Hamano
2007-09-17  2:31                               ` metastore david
2007-09-17  4:23                                 ` metastore Junio C Hamano
2007-09-17  4:35                                   ` metastore david
2007-09-17  6:06                                     ` metastore Junio C Hamano
2007-09-17 17:42                                   ` metastore Daniel Barkalow
2007-09-17 19:19                                     ` metastore Junio C Hamano
2007-09-16 15:59                     ` metastore (was: Track /etc directory using Git) Jan Hudec
2007-09-16 20:36                       ` david
2007-09-16  6:14                   ` martin f krafft
2007-09-16 15:51                     ` Jan Hudec
2007-09-16 19:43                       ` david
2007-09-17 13:31                       ` martin f krafft
2007-09-16  1:35                 ` david
2007-09-16  6:08                 ` martin f krafft
2007-09-19 19:16                   ` David Härdeman
2007-10-02 19:53                     ` martin f krafft
2007-10-02 19:58                       ` David Härdeman
2007-10-02 20:04                         ` metastore David Kastrup
2007-10-02 20:18                           ` metastore david
2007-10-02 20:23                             ` metastore martin f krafft
2007-10-02 20:29                               ` metastore david
2007-10-02 20:39                                 ` metastore martin f krafft
2007-10-02 20:54                                   ` metastore david
2007-10-02 21:42                                     ` metastore martin f krafft
2007-10-02 21:15                           ` metastore David Härdeman
2007-10-02 21:44                             ` metastore martin f krafft
2007-10-02 23:32                             ` metastore Julian Phillips
2007-10-03  0:52                               ` metastore david
2007-10-03  0:52                                 ` metastore Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-02 21:02                         ` metastore (was: Track /etc directory using Git) Daniel Barkalow
     [not found] ` <20070913122002.GO671@genesis.frugalware.org>
     [not found]   ` <38b2ab8a0709140120k50f5b474oc8a841ea0a5fda50@mail.gmail.com>
2007-09-15 16:32     ` Track /etc directory using Git martin f krafft
2007-09-15 16:57       ` David Kastrup

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