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From: Petr Baudis <pasky@ucw.cz>
To: Kevin Smith <yarcs@qualitycode.com>
Cc: Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Cogito vs. Git (was: Mercurial vs Updated git HOWTO for kernel hackers)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:54:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050628205422.GI1275@pasky.ji.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42C1800C.7040506@qualitycode.com>

Dear diary, on Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 06:51:24PM CEST, I got a letter
where Kevin Smith <yarcs@qualitycode.com> told me that...
> Petr Baudis wrote:
> >Cogito's only unusual requirement (well, expectation) is that HEAD is a
> >symlink to .git/refs/heads/master, and .git/refs/heads/master should
> >reflect your current head. I will try to ease up this restriction so
> >that things will mostly work even if you just have HEAD. I think that
> >most auxiliary commands (e.g. cg-log - you just have to love it) should
> >work on any sensible git tree (but I didn't test it - yet).
> 
> So you're saying that aside from that one solveable issue, I could use 
> low-level git tools, third-party over-git tools, and cogito, 
> interchangebly on a single repo without the tools becoming confused? 

Yes, given that you use the toolset "atomically" - if you start doing
some large-scale operation using one tool, you should finish it using
the same tool. That is, if you start merging by Cogito and then try to
commit by Linus' git plumbing, it won't work (and vice versa). cg-seek
combined with third-party over-git tools might have unknown consequences
as well.

> That's cool, and should be made more clear in the cogito readme. I was 
> under the impression that cogito was tracking all kinds of extra meta 
> magic stuff that git tools wouldn't keep updated.

It is tracking only seeks and merges in way the git tools wouldn't keep
updated. I will try to actually make it use ~/.git/MERGE_HEAD instead of
~/.git/merging as well, to make people's live even easier.

> If I were using cogito, I probably wouldn't want to use the low-level 
> git stuff directly, but I might want to use (or maybe even write) some 
> other over-git tools.
> 
> You might also consider removing the "Core GIT" section from the README, 
> because I think it increases the confusion between the two.

I might consider throwing away Git from Cogito distribution altogether,
but that would require Git to have some actual release cycle. ;-)

FYI, I will merge the pile of queued Cogito
patches during the weekend and next week, preparing 0.11.4 or 0.12
(depends on how I feel about it). I will also merge the Linus' stuff,
but only up to:

7323aa11af1527d5a786d93ee34401c72c5df051
	Jan Harkes  2005-06-25 13:41
	[PATCH] git-write-tree doesn't check alternate directories

The next patch is

c323ac7d9c573c5ee8b45b9b9def92a4d4d8204d
	Linus Torvalds  2005-06-25 14:42
	git-pack-objects: create a packed object representation

and I'm not sure if I'm ready to already take the packed stuff; I will
see how tested it gets (and if fsck will get taught about it etc). If it
won't be ready by the time I'm ready for the release, I will merge the
rest right after the release.


-- 
				Petr "Pasky" Baudis
Stuff: http://pasky.or.cz/
<Espy> be careful, some twit might quote you out of context..

  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-28 20:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-22 22:24 Updated git HOWTO for kernel hackers Jeff Garzik
2005-06-22 22:40 ` Dave Jones
2005-06-22 22:47   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-22 22:52     ` Dave Jones
2005-06-23  0:14       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-25  3:33   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-25 17:29     ` Dave Jones
2005-06-22 23:09 ` Greg KH
2005-06-22 23:25   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-23  0:05     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-23  0:29       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-23  1:47         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-23  1:56           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-23  2:16             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-23  2:39               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-23  3:06                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-23  3:24                   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-23  5:16                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-23  5:58                       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-23  6:20                         ` Greg KH
2005-06-23  6:51                           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-23  7:11                             ` Greg KH
2005-06-23  7:03                         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-23  7:38                         ` Petr Baudis
2005-06-23  8:18                           ` Martin Langhoff
2005-06-23  8:30                         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-06-23 14:31                       ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-22 23:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-23  0:15   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-23  1:53     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-23  7:06       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-23 15:29         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-23  0:33   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-23  2:04   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-23  2:28     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-23  3:52       ` Adam Kropelin
2005-06-23  4:54         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-23  5:35           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-23  6:37             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-23  6:07           ` Miles Bader
2005-06-23  7:15       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-23 16:06         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-23  8:01   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-06-23  4:23 ` Daniel Barkalow
2005-06-23 12:25 ` Dave Airlie
2005-06-23 23:56 ` Mercurial vs " Matt Mackall
2005-06-24  6:41   ` Petr Baudis
2005-06-24 12:38     ` Christopher Li
2005-06-28 15:00       ` Petr Baudis
2005-06-28 15:10         ` Andrew Thompson
2005-06-28 15:35           ` Petr Baudis
2005-06-28 21:54           ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-28 18:47             ` Christopher Li
2005-06-29  0:12             ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-28 18:01         ` Matt Mackall
2005-06-28 20:27           ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-28 20:45             ` Sean
2005-06-28 22:14               ` Matt Mackall
2005-06-28 22:23                 ` Sean
2005-06-28 22:47                   ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-28 22:49                   ` Matt Mackall
2005-06-28 22:59                     ` Sean
2005-06-28 23:25                       ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-28 23:37                         ` Sean
2005-06-29  0:08                           ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-29  0:25                             ` Sean
2005-06-29  3:53                               ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-29 10:27                                 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-06-28 23:29                       ` Matt Mackall
2005-06-29  6:32             ` Thomas Arendsen Hein
2005-06-24 13:06     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-24 13:39       ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-06-24 13:46         ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-06-24 12:19           ` Christopher Li
2005-06-24 13:57       ` Kevin Smith
2005-06-24 18:03         ` Matt Mackall
2005-06-28 15:07         ` Petr Baudis
2005-06-28 15:15           ` Sven Verdoolaege
2005-06-28 15:34             ` Petr Baudis
2005-06-28 16:50           ` Cygwin and Native MS Windows (was: Mercurial vs Updated git HOWTO for kernel hackers) Kevin Smith
2005-06-28 16:51           ` Cogito vs. Git " Kevin Smith
2005-06-28 20:54             ` Petr Baudis [this message]
2005-06-24 13:16     ` Mercurial vs Updated git HOWTO for kernel hackers Matthias Urlichs
2005-06-24 19:00       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-24 19:25         ` John W. Linville
2005-06-24 22:38         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-24 21:11       ` Daniel Barkalow
2005-06-24 22:08       ` Should "git-read-tree -m -u" delete files? Junio C Hamano
2005-06-24 22:45     ` Mercurial vs Updated git HOWTO for kernel hackers Joel Becker
2005-06-24 23:08   ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-27 18:31   ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-27 19:05     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-27 19:40     ` Matt Mackall
2005-06-27 19:51       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-06-27 20:51         ` Matt Mackall
2005-06-27 21:53         ` Ed Tomlinson
2005-07-08 15:18 ` Amin Azez
2005-07-11  8:56   ` Amin Azez

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