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From: Nick Craig-Wood <nick@craig-wood.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: enforcing DB immutability
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:57:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050420145725.GA23072@craig-wood.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050420074948.GA22620@elte.hu>

On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 09:49:48AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> 
> > perhaps having a new 'immutable hardlink' feature in the Linux VFS 
> > would help? I.e. a hardlink that can only be readonly followed, and 
> > can be removed, but cannot be chmod-ed to a writeable hardlink. That i 
> > think would be a large enough barrier for editors/build-tools not to 
> > play the tricks they already do that makes 'readonly' files virtually 
> > meaningless.
> 
> immutable hardlinks have the following advantage: a hardlink by design 
> hides the information where the link comes from. So even if an editor 
> wanted to play stupid games and override the immutability - it doesnt 
> know where the DB object is. (sure, it could find it if it wants to, but 
> that needs real messing around - editors wont do _that_)

This has already been implemented for the linux vserver project.  Take
a look in the patch here :-

  http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.11.7-vs1.9.5.x5.diff.bz2

(Its not split out, but search for IMMUTABLE and you'll see what I mean)

It implements immutable linkage invert, which basically allows people
to delete hardlinks to immutable files, but not do anything else to
them.  It uses another bit out of the attributes to "invert" the
immutability of the linkage of immutable files.

Its used in the vserver project so that individual vservers (which are
basically just fancy chroots) can share libraries, binaries and hence
memory, can't muck each other up, but can upgrade their libs/binaries.

-- 
Nick Craig-Wood <nick@craig-wood.com> -- http://www.craig-wood.com/nick

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-04-20 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]                 ` <425D4FB1.9040207@zytor.com>
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     [not found]                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0504131027210.4501@ppc970.osdl.org>
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     [not found]                         ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0504131144160.4501@ppc970.osdl.org>
2005-04-13 20:02                           ` Index/hash order Ingo Molnar
2005-04-13 20:07                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-13 20:15                               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-13 20:18                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-13 20:21                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-13 20:26                                     ` Updated base64 patches H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-13 21:04                                 ` Index/hash order Linus Torvalds
2005-04-20  7:40                                   ` enforcing DB immutability Ingo Molnar
2005-04-20  7:49                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-20  7:53                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-20  8:58                                         ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-20 14:57                                       ` Nick Craig-Wood [this message]
2005-04-27  8:15                                       ` Wout
2005-04-13 20:15                               ` Index/hash order Linus Torvalds
2005-04-13 20:28                         ` Baruch Even
     [not found]                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0504131008500.4501@ppc970.osdl.org>
2005-04-13 21:40                     ` Florian Weimer
2005-04-13 22:11                       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-13 22:48                         ` Florian Weimer
2005-04-14  7:04                         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-14 10:50                           ` cache-cold repository performance Ingo Molnar
2005-04-20  8:41 enforcing DB immutability linux
2005-04-20 15:57 ` Erik Mouw
2005-04-22 16:10 ` Bill Davidsen

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