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From: "Philip Oakley" <philipoakley@iee.org>
To: "Mike Hommey" <mh@glandium.org>, <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Allowing weak references to blobs and strong references to commits
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 20:55:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1E05987AFD4A4ABCB5515905B517C021@PhilipOakley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20150331100756.GA13377@glandium.org

From: "Mike Hommey" <mh@glandium.org>
[...]

> So I thought, since commits are already allowed in tree objects, for
> submodules, why not add a bit to the mode that would tell git that
> those commit object references are meant to always be there aka strong
> reference, as opposed to the current weak references for submodules.
> I was thinking something like 0200000, which is above S_IFMT, but I
> haven't checked if mode is expected to be a short anywhere, maybe one 
> of
> the file permission flags could be abused instead (sticky bit?).
>
> I could see this used in the future to e.g. implement a fetchable 
> reflog
> (which could be a ref to a tree with strong references to commits).
>
> Then that got me thinking that the opposite would be useful to me as
> well: I'm currently storing mercurial manifests as git trees with
> (weak) commit references using the mercurial sha1s for files.
> Unfortunately, that doesn't allow to store the corresponding file
> permissions, so I'm going through hoops to get that. It would be 
> simpler
> for me if I could just declare files or symlinks with the right
> permissions and say 'the corresponding blob doesn't need to exist'.
> I'm sure other tools using git as storage would have a use for such
> weak references.
>
The "weak references" idea is something that's on my back list of 
Toh-Doh's for the purpose of having a Narrow clone.

However it's not that easy as you need to consider three areas - what's 
on disk (worktree/file system), what's in the index, and what's in the 
object store and how a coherent view is kept of all three without 
breakage.

The 'Sparse Checkout' / 'Skip Worktree' (see `git help read-tree`) 
covers the first two but not the third (which submodules does) [that's 
your 'the corresponding blob doesn't need to exist' aspect from my 
perspective]


> What do you think about this? Does that seem reasonable to have in git
> core, and if yes, how would you go about implementing it (same bit 
> with
> different meaning for blobs and commits (or would you rather that were
> only done for commits and not for blobs)? what should I be careful
> about, besides making sure gc and fsck don't mess up?)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mike
>
> 1. a git-remote-hg tool, https://github.com/glandium/git-cinnabar/
> --
Philip 

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-31 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-31 10:07 Allowing weak references to blobs and strong references to commits Mike Hommey
2015-03-31 19:55 ` Philip Oakley [this message]
2015-03-31 21:08   ` Randall S. Becker
2015-03-31 20:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-31 22:39   ` Mike Hommey
2015-03-31 23:00     ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-31 23:14     ` Jonathan Nieder
2015-03-31 23:18       ` Jonathan Nieder
2015-03-31 23:25       ` Junio C Hamano
2015-03-31 23:35       ` Mike Hommey

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