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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
Cc: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Marc Branchaud" <marcnarc@xiplink.com>,
	"Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2@gentoo.org>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
	"Lars Schneider" <larsxschneider@gmail.com>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] checkout: Force matching mtime between files
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 21:35:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1524944121.1013.13.camel@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACsJy8AfE4XMgTLuM=9aWV7eX5Hd8CqmFMuEgQaSxsLfGoBb5w@mail.gmail.com>

W dniu sob, 28.04.2018 o godzinie 16∶23 +0200, użytkownik Duy Nguyen
napisał:
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 4:46 PM, Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > For the record, we're using this with ebuilds and respective cache files
> > (which are expensive to generate).  We are using separate repository
> > which combines sources and cache files to keep the development
> > repository clean.  I have researched different solutions for this but
> > git turned out the best option for incremental updates for us.
> > 
> > Tarballs are out of question, unless you expect users to fetch >100 MiB
> > every time, and they are also expensive to update.  Deltas of tarballs
> > are just slow and require storing a lot of extra data.  Rsync is not
> > very efficient at frequent updates, and has significant overhead
> > on every run.  With all its disadvantages, git is still something that
> > lets our users fetch updates frequently with minimal network overhead.
> 
> I assume you're talking about the metadata directory in gentoo-x86
> repo. This specific case could be solved by renaming metadata to
> _metadata or something to put it on the top. "git checkout" always
> updates files in strcmp(path) order. This guarantees time(_metadata)
> <= time(ebuild) for all ebuilds without any extra touching (either in
> git or in a post-checkout hook)

We can't really rename it without breaking compatibility with all
package managers out there.  Preparing to do such a major change for
the sake of abusing implementation detail of git doesn't look like
a worthwhile idea.

> 
> The behavior has been this way since forever and as far as I can tell
> very unlikely to change at least for branch switching (major changes
> involved around the index). It's a bit easier to accidentally change
> how "git checkout -- path" works though. I don't know if we could just
> make this checkout order a promise and guarantee not to break it
> though. For it it does not sound like it adds extra maintenance
> burden.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny


  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-28 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-13 17:01 [RFC PATCH] checkout: Force matching mtime between files Michał Górny
2018-04-23 20:07 ` Robin H. Johnson
2018-04-23 23:41   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-25  7:13     ` Robin H. Johnson
2018-04-25  8:48       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-25 15:18         ` Marc Branchaud
2018-04-25 20:07           ` Robin H. Johnson
2018-04-26  1:25           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-26 14:12             ` Marc Branchaud
2018-04-26 14:46             ` Michał Górny
2018-04-28 14:23               ` Duy Nguyen
2018-04-28 19:35                 ` Michał Górny [this message]
2018-04-26 16:43           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-04-26 17:48             ` Robin H. Johnson
2018-04-26 18:44               ` Duy Nguyen
2018-04-29 23:56                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-30 15:10                   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-04-27 17:03           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-04-27 21:08             ` Elijah Newren
2018-04-28  6:08               ` Duy Nguyen
2018-04-29 23:47               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-27 21:08             ` Marc Branchaud
2018-04-28  6:16               ` Duy Nguyen
2018-04-27 17:18           ` Michał Górny
2018-04-27 19:53             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-25  8:41     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-26 17:15       ` Duy Nguyen
2018-04-26 17:51         ` Robin H. Johnson
2018-04-26 17:53         ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-04-26 18:45           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-04-24 14:41 ` Marc Branchaud
2018-04-25  6:58 ` Robin H. Johnson
2018-04-25  7:13   ` Michał Górny
2018-05-05 18:44 ` Jeff King
2018-05-06  3:37   ` Junio C Hamano

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