From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Kristian =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=F8gsberg?= Subject: Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for builtins Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:17:35 -0400 Message-ID: <1219767455.5493.4.camel@gaara.bos.redhat.com> References: <7vprnzt7d5.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> <1219664940.9583.42.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <7vy72kek6y.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> <20080826145719.GB5046@coredump.intra.peff.net> <1219764860.4471.13.camel@gaara.bos.redhat.com> <1219766398.7107.87.camel@pmac.infradead.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Cc: Jeff King , Junio C Hamano , Johannes Schindelin , git@vger.kernel.org, users@kernel.org To: David Woodhouse X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Tue Aug 26 18:20:43 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KY1HX-0008Ho-BN for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:20:35 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752458AbYHZQTb convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:19:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754250AbYHZQTb (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:19:31 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:51064 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752303AbYHZQTa (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:19:30 -0400 Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m7QGHcSZ022090; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:17:38 -0400 Received: from pobox.corp.redhat.com (pobox.corp.redhat.com [10.11.255.20]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m7QGHbb5016382; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:17:37 -0400 Received: from [10.16.3.198] (dhcp-100-3-198.bos.redhat.com [10.16.3.198]) by pobox.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m7QGHaNA008785; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:17:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1219766398.7107.87.camel@pmac.infradead.org> X-Mailer: Evolution 2.23.6 (2.23.6-1.fc10) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 172.16.52.254 Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 16:59 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 11:34 -0400, Kristian H=C3=B8gsberg wrote: > > It's pretty normal to see opponents of a decision like this complai= n > > loudly when it lands on their system, whereas the silent majority i= n > > favour will be happy to see the change finally implemented but relu= ctant > > to stir up the discussion again. > >=20 > > I don't think new arguments are brought to the discussion, just new > > people, who are temporarily inconvened by a change towards sanity. >=20 > Nice emotive response, especially the subtle but unsubstantiated 'sil= ent > majority in favour' bit -- but you forgot the part where you were > supposed to actually point out a tangible benefit which is achieved b= y > breaking compatibility like this. Oh get off your high horse, this entire thread is pretty much all bullshit and emotions. Not every arbitrary decision deserves to be set in stone and be defended under the banner of backwards compatibility. Kristian