From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Robert Collins Subject: Re: VCS comparison table Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:27:58 +1000 Message-ID: <1161124078.9020.88.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <9e4733910610140807p633f5660q49dd2d2111c9f5fe@mail.gmail.com> <200610170119.09066.jnareb@gmail.com> <45346290.6050300@utoronto.ca> <200610171120.09747.jnareb@gmail.com> <1161078035.9020.73.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-na+JGVOdb3I7Ra+ewo9f" Cc: bazaar-ng@lists.canonical.com, git@vger.kernel.org, Jakub Narebski X-From: bazaar-ng-bounces@lists.canonical.com Wed Oct 18 00:28:41 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvbg-bazaar-ng@m.gmane.org Received: from esperanza.ubuntu.com ([82.211.81.173]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GZxQF-0002IR-Vw for gcvbg-bazaar-ng@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:28:32 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=esperanza.ubuntu.com) by esperanza.ubuntu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GZxPw-0001He-JB; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:28:12 +0100 Received: from smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.203]) by esperanza.ubuntu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GZxPk-0001H3-L6 for bazaar-ng@lists.canonical.com; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:28:03 +0100 Received: from lifelesswks.robertcollins.net (ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net [59.167.245.86]) by smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k9HMRsA7037768; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:57:54 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from robertc@robertcollins.net) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (helo=lifelesslap.robertcollins.net) by lifelesswks.robertcollins.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GZxPe-0004eL-9K; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:27:54 +1000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost.localdomain) by lifelesslap.robertcollins.net with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GZxPj-0007mz-4N; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:27:59 +1000 To: Linus Torvalds In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 X-BeenThere: bazaar-ng@lists.canonical.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: bazaar-ng discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: bazaar-ng-bounces@lists.canonical.com Errors-To: bazaar-ng-bounces@lists.canonical.com Archived-At: --=-na+JGVOdb3I7Ra+ewo9f Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2006-10-17 at 09:41 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: >=20 > On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Robert Collins wrote: >=20 > > On Tue, 2006-10-17 at 11:20 +0200, Jakub Narebski wrote: > > >=20 > > > ---- time ---> > > >=20 > > > --*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*-- > > > \ / > > > \-*--X--*--/ > > >=20 > > > The branch it used to be on is gone... > >=20 > > In bzr 0.12 this is : > > 2.1.2 > >=20 > > (assuming the first * is numbered '1'.) > >=20 > > These numbers are fairly stable >=20 > And here, by "fairly stable", you really mean "totally idiotic", don't=20 > you? >=20 > Guys, let's be blunt here, and just say you're wrong. The fact is, I've=20 > used a system that uses the same naming bzr does, and I've used it likely= =20 > longer and with a bigger project than anybody has likely _ever_ used bzr=20 > for. >=20 > It sounds like bzr is doing _exactly_ what bitkeeper did.=20 >=20 > Those "simple" numbers are totally idiotic. And when I say "totally=20 > idiotic", please go back up a few sentences, and read those again. I know= =20 > what I'm talking about. I know probably better than anybody in the bzr=20 > camp. Be as blunt as you want. You're expressing an opinion, and thats fine. I happen to think that we're right : users appear to really appreciate this bit of the UI, and I've not yet seen any evidence of confusion about it - though I will admit there is the possibility of that occurring. I think its completely ok that git and bzr have made different choices in this regard, but I *dont* think our choice is in any regard 'totally idiotic'. [snip examples that are clearly predicated on how bk worked, not on how bzr works]. -Rob --=20 GPG key available at: . --=-na+JGVOdb3I7Ra+ewo9f Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBFNVjuM4BfeEKYx2ERAoluAJ9AdoRsQOXe6sKv6JUMFGp3rJ+JnQCePd7+ g7uxYNYuvrITeAch1hag4cQ= =3HTU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-na+JGVOdb3I7Ra+ewo9f--