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From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
To: "Taylor Blau" <me@ttaylorr.com>, "SZEDER Gábor" <szeder.dev@gmail.com>
Cc: Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, l.s.r@web.de,
	Derrick Stolee <dstolee@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 04/10] commit-graph: persist existence of changed-paths
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 22:18:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <103404f0-a164-2550-4730-6b8773d3ca1f@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201015214111.GA2176154@nand.local>

On 10/15/2020 5:41 PM, Taylor Blau wrote:
> So, we need to be more aggressively checking the Bloom filter settings
> in any layer we want to reuse a Bloom filter out of before reusing it
> verbatim in the current layer. The patch below the scissors line is
> sufficient to do that, and it causes the third test to start passing.

I think there are three things we should keep in mind:

1. Incompatible Bloom filter settings between layers should be seen
   as _inconsistent data_ as Git should not be writing incremental
   commit-graph files with inconsistent Bloom filter settings. Thus,
   when reading the commit-graph chain we should prevent incompatible
   filters from being used. One way to do this is to notice different
   settings and completely disable Bloom filters. The other way would
   be to take the settings from the first layer with filters and then
   clear the chunk_bloom_indexes and chunk_bloom_data fields for the
   layers that don't agree. This fits with an expectation that lower
   layers are larger, so more filters can be used in that situation.

2. We should be sure that Git will not agree to write incompatible
   settings between layers of a commit-graph chain. Even more, it
   should definitely not re-use filters when merging layers with
   incompatible filter values. The strategy above to ignore Bloom
   filters in incompatible upper layers is enough of a guard against
   the "merge layers" situation.

3. Allowing users (or future Git developers) to adjust the default
   Bloom filter settings is one that is good to do for future-proofing,
   but not one that I expect to be widely used (any gains here are
   minuscule compared to the results already achieved with the defaults).
   On top of that, including incompatible settings across layers is even
   less likely to be a real use case. We should not be straining to make
   the code even worse for this imaginary scenario.

With that said...
 
> ...But, teaching the revision machinery how to handle a walk through
> commits in multiple commit-graph layers with incompatible Bloom filter
> settings is trickier. Right now we compute all of the Bloom keys up
> front using the Bloom filter settings in the top layer. I think we'd
> probably want to change this to lazily compute those keys by:
It would probably be easiest to compute an array of bloom_key structs
(per path) where the index corresponds to the depth of the commit-graph
layer. You can then access the correct key after you have identified
which layer the commit is from.

> At least, that's the best way that I can think to do it. It does get
> kind of slow, though; we'd have to scan every commit graph layer at each
> commit in the worst case to find the actual 'struct commit_graph *' in
> order to get its Bloom filter settings. So, I think that's sort of
> show-stoppingly slow, and that we should probably think more deeply
> about it before taking up that direction.
> 
> Maybe Stolee has some better thoughts about how we can quickly go from a
> commit to either (a) the commit-graph struct that that commit is stored
> in, or (b) the Bloom filter settings belonging to that struct.

We already have code that finds a commit in a commit-graph layer
based on its integer position by iterating until num_commits_in_base
is below our position. The lexicographic position within that layer
is found by subtracting num_commits_in_base.

For us, we would simply need:

int get_commit_graph_layer(struct commit_graph *g, uint32_t pos)
{
	uint32_t layer_index = 0;

	while (g && pos < g->num_commits_in_base) {
		g = g->base_graph;
		layer_index++;
	}

	return layer_index;
}

You could then use the response from get_commit_graph_layer()
to load the correct Bloom key.

Again, I strongly suggest _not_ working hard to support this
case. We should only put in proper safeguards to prevent data
like this being written and protect a Git process that might
stumble across data in this shape.

Thanks,
-Stolee

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-16  2:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-15 20:14 [PATCH 0/8] More commit-graph/Bloom filter improvements Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-06-15 20:14 ` [PATCH 1/8] commit-graph: place bloom_settings in context Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-06-18 20:30   ` René Scharfe
2020-06-19 12:58     ` Derrick Stolee
2020-06-15 20:14 ` [PATCH 2/8] commit-graph: unify the signatures of all write_graph_chunk_*() functions SZEDER Gábor via GitGitGadget
2020-06-18 20:30   ` René Scharfe
2020-06-15 20:14 ` [PATCH 3/8] commit-graph: simplify chunk writes into loop SZEDER Gábor via GitGitGadget
2020-06-18 20:30   ` René Scharfe
2020-06-15 20:14 ` [PATCH 4/8] commit-graph: check chunk sizes after writing SZEDER Gábor via GitGitGadget
2020-06-15 20:14 ` [PATCH 5/8] commit-graph: check all leading directories in changed path Bloom filters SZEDER Gábor via GitGitGadget
2020-06-18 20:31   ` René Scharfe
2020-06-19  9:14     ` René Scharfe
2020-06-19 17:17   ` Taylor Blau
2020-06-19 17:19     ` Taylor Blau
2020-06-23 13:47     ` Derrick Stolee
2020-06-15 20:14 ` [PATCH 6/8] bloom: enforce a minimum size of 8 bytes Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-06-15 20:14 ` [PATCH 7/8] commit-graph: change test to die on parse, not load Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-06-15 20:14 ` [PATCH 8/8] commit-graph: persist existence of changed-paths Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-06-17 21:21 ` [PATCH 0/8] More commit-graph/Bloom filter improvements Junio C Hamano
2020-06-18  1:46   ` Derrick Stolee
2020-06-23 17:46 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-06-23 17:47   ` [PATCH v2 01/11] commit-graph: place bloom_settings in context Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-06-23 17:47   ` [PATCH v2 02/11] commit-graph: change test to die on parse, not load Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-06-23 17:47   ` [PATCH v2 03/11] bloom: get_bloom_filter() cleanups Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-06-25  7:24     ` René Scharfe
2020-06-23 17:47   ` [PATCH v2 04/11] commit-graph: persist existence of changed-paths Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-06-23 17:47   ` [PATCH v2 05/11] commit-graph: unify the signatures of all write_graph_chunk_*() functions SZEDER Gábor via GitGitGadget
2020-06-25  7:25     ` René Scharfe
2020-06-23 17:47   ` [PATCH v2 06/11] commit-graph: simplify chunk writes into loop SZEDER Gábor via GitGitGadget
2020-06-25  7:25     ` René Scharfe
2020-06-25 14:59       ` Derrick Stolee
2020-06-23 17:47   ` [PATCH v2 07/11] commit-graph: check chunk sizes after writing SZEDER Gábor via GitGitGadget
2020-06-25  7:25     ` René Scharfe
2020-06-25 15:02       ` Derrick Stolee
2020-06-23 17:47   ` [PATCH v2 08/11] revision.c: fix whitespace Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-06-23 17:47   ` [PATCH v2 09/11] revision: empty pathspecs should not use Bloom filters Taylor Blau via GitGitGadget
2020-06-23 17:47   ` [PATCH v2 10/11] commit-graph: check all leading directories in changed path " SZEDER Gábor via GitGitGadget
2020-06-25  7:25     ` René Scharfe
2020-06-25 15:05       ` Derrick Stolee
2020-06-26  6:34         ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-06-26 14:42           ` Derrick Stolee
2020-06-23 17:47   ` [PATCH v2 11/11] bloom: enforce a minimum size of 8 bytes Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-06-24 23:11   ` [PATCH v2 00/11] More commit-graph/Bloom filter improvements Junio C Hamano
2020-06-24 23:32     ` Derrick Stolee
2020-06-25  0:38       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-25 13:38         ` Derrick Stolee
2020-06-25 16:34           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-26 12:30   ` [PATCH v3 00/10] " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-06-26 12:30     ` [PATCH v3 01/10] commit-graph: place bloom_settings in context Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-06-26 12:30     ` [PATCH v3 02/10] commit-graph: change test to die on parse, not load Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-06-26 12:30     ` [PATCH v3 03/10] bloom: fix logic in get_bloom_filter() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-06-27 16:33       ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-06-29 13:02         ` Derrick Stolee
2020-06-26 12:30     ` [PATCH v3 04/10] commit-graph: persist existence of changed-paths Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-06-26 12:30     ` [PATCH v3 05/10] commit-graph: unify the signatures of all write_graph_chunk_*() functions SZEDER Gábor via GitGitGadget
2020-06-26 12:30     ` [PATCH v3 06/10] commit-graph: simplify chunk writes into loop SZEDER Gábor via GitGitGadget
2020-06-26 12:30     ` [PATCH v3 07/10] commit-graph: check chunk sizes after writing SZEDER Gábor via GitGitGadget
2020-06-26 12:30     ` [PATCH v3 08/10] revision.c: fix whitespace Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-06-26 12:30     ` [PATCH v3 09/10] revision: empty pathspecs should not use Bloom filters Taylor Blau via GitGitGadget
2020-06-26 12:30     ` [PATCH v3 10/10] commit-graph: check all leading directories in changed path " SZEDER Gábor via GitGitGadget
2020-07-01 13:27     ` [PATCH v4 00/10] More commit-graph/Bloom filter improvements Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-07-01 13:27       ` [PATCH v4 01/10] commit-graph: place bloom_settings in context Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-07-01 13:27       ` [PATCH v4 02/10] commit-graph: change test to die on parse, not load Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-07-01 13:27       ` [PATCH v4 03/10] bloom: fix logic in get_bloom_filter() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-07-01 13:27       ` [PATCH v4 04/10] commit-graph: persist existence of changed-paths Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-10-15 13:21         ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-10-15 21:41           ` Taylor Blau
2020-10-16  2:18             ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2020-10-16  3:18               ` Taylor Blau
2020-10-16 13:52                 ` Derrick Stolee
2020-07-01 13:27       ` [PATCH v4 05/10] commit-graph: unify the signatures of all write_graph_chunk_*() functions SZEDER Gábor via GitGitGadget
2020-07-01 13:27       ` [PATCH v4 06/10] commit-graph: simplify chunk writes into loop SZEDER Gábor via GitGitGadget
2020-07-01 13:27       ` [PATCH v4 07/10] commit-graph: check chunk sizes after writing SZEDER Gábor via GitGitGadget
2020-07-01 13:27       ` [PATCH v4 08/10] revision.c: fix whitespace Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-07-01 13:27       ` [PATCH v4 09/10] revision: empty pathspecs should not use Bloom filters Taylor Blau via GitGitGadget
2020-07-01 13:27       ` [PATCH v4 10/10] commit-graph: check all leading directories in changed path " SZEDER Gábor via GitGitGadget

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