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From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>,
	Adam Spiers <git@adamspiers.org>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/13] init: unconditionally create the "info" directory
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 14:43:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <102cc731-99ec-57b0-91de-23d5569fd959@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <220112.86a6g1xgyl.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com>

On 1/12/2022 7:42 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Dec 20 2021, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> 
>> On 12/20/2021 11:13 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 20 2021, Derrick Stolee wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/12/2021 3:13 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>>>>> But we've also grown a hard dependency on this directory within git
>>>>> itself. Since 94c0956b609 (sparse-checkout: create builtin with 'list'
>>>>> subcommand, 2019-11-21) released with v2.25.0 the "git
>>>>> sparse-checkout" command has wanted to add exclusions to
>>>>> "info/sparse-checkout". It didn't check or create the leading
>>>>> directory, so if it's omitted the command will die.
>>>>
>>>>> Even if that behavior were fixed we'd be left with older versions of
>>>>> "git" dying if that was attempted if they used a repository
>>>>> initialized without a template.
>>>>
>>>> This, I don't understand. Why can't we add a
>>>> safe_create_leading_directories() to any place where we try to
>>>> create a sparse-checkout file?
>>>>
>>>> This would fix situations where older versions were init'd with a
>>>> different template or if the user deleted the info dir. The change
>>>> you've made here doesn't fix those cases, which is what you are
>>>> claiming is the reason to not do the other fix that seems like it
>>>> would.
>>>>
>>>> What am I misunderstanding here?
>>>
>>> I'll clarify that a bit in any re-roll.
>>>
>>> Pedantically nothing changes, i.e. you can create a repository with an
>>> empty template now, and it'll break on both the sparse-checkout on that
>>> version, and any previous version that had that un-noticed issue.
>>
>> You continue after this with more motivations for adding 'init' 
>> unconditionally, which I am not fighting.
>>
>> What I _am_ saying is important is that if we are trying to write
>> a file to a known location and its parent directory doesn't exist,
>> then we should create it. Not doing so is a bug and should be
>> fixed, no matter how rare such a thing is to occur. As you've
>> shown, it is not required to have an info directory until we need
>> one (e.g. for sparse-checkout or an excludes file).
>>
>> If you're not planning to add that to this series, then I'll add it
>> to my list. I do think it would fit well into this one, though.
> 
> Just so we'll avoid stepping on each other's toes, what's the status of
> your plan/non-plan to work on that more isolated fix, perhaps you have
> one that's unsubmitted?

I do not have one that is unsubmitted. I was hoping that you would
include it in a v2 to this series. I might have been quicker to
volunteer to create one had I not been sidelined for two weeks, but
right now I have a lot to catch up on so don't have the time.

Thanks,
-Stolee

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-18 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-12 20:13 [PATCH 00/13] tests + init: don't rely on templates & add --no-template + config Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-12 20:13 ` [PATCH 01/13] t0001: fix gaps in "TEMPLATE DIRECTORY" coverage Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-12 20:13 ` [PATCH 02/13] init: split out template population from create_default_files() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-12 20:13 ` [PATCH 03/13] init: unconditionally create the "info" directory Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-20 15:59   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-12-20 16:13     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-20 17:39       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-12-20 18:16         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-20 19:06         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-21  1:15           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-21  2:10             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-21  2:39               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-21  6:38                 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-24 17:26                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-25  1:58                     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-12 12:42         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-18 19:43           ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2022-01-19  1:00             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-12 20:13 ` [PATCH 04/13] t0008: don't rely on default ".git/info/exclude" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-12 20:13 ` [PATCH 05/13] init & clone: add a --no-template option Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-12 20:13 ` [PATCH 06/13] init & clone: add init.templateDir=[bool] Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-12 20:13 ` [PATCH 07/13] test-lib: create test data with "git init --no-template" (almost) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-12 20:13 ` [PATCH 08/13] tests: don't depend on template-created .git/branches Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-12 20:13 ` [PATCH 09/13] t5540: don't rely on "hook/post-update.sample" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-12 20:13 ` [PATCH 10/13] test-lib-functions: add and use a "write_hook" wrapper Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-13 14:15   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-12-13 16:29     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-13 16:45       ` Eric Sunshine
2021-12-13 19:37         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-13 21:33           ` Eric Sunshine
2021-12-12 20:13 ` [PATCH 11/13] tests: change "cat && chmod +x" to use "write_hook" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-12 20:13 ` [PATCH 12/13] tests: migrate miscellaneous "write_script" to "write_hooks" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-12 20:13 ` [PATCH 13/13] tests: don't depend on template-created .git/hooks Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-03 11:15 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] tests: don't depend on "git init" using the template Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-03 11:15   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] t0008: don't rely on default ".git/info/exclude" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-03 11:15   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] tests: don't depend on template-created .git/branches Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-03 11:15   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] tests: don't assume a .git/info for .git/info/grafts Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-03 11:15   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] tests: don't assume a .git/info for .git/info/attributes Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-03 11:15   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] tests: don't assume a .git/info for .git/info/refs Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-03 11:15   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] tests: don't assume a .git/info for .git/info/exclude Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-03 11:15   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] tests: don't assume a .git/info for .git/info/sparse-checkout Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-03 19:17   ` [PATCH v2 0/7] tests: don't depend on "git init" using the template Junio C Hamano
2022-06-04  0:41     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-06 19:08       ` Junio C Hamano

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