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From: "Jean-Noël Avila" <avila.jn@gmail.com>
To: "Martin Ågren" <martin.agren@gmail.com>, "Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>
Cc: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
	Git Users <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC suggestion] Generate manpage directly with Asciidoctor
Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 11:04:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0fd3182c-3805-ee1b-5a35-e0c9a67892ab@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN0heSpN_ieGc2HJCvSsmUuEqS-GGPDcZHz=v2Z3hJY=Or_HMw@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/05/2021 at 10:20, Martin Ågren wrote :
>
> I tend to think asciidoctor even renders our manpages *better* than
> asciidoc does. Not by a huge margin, but a few things here and there.
> Some time around the Python 2 EOL, I was about to propose flipping the
> default, but then I went to look up the asciidoc EOL schedule, and like
> you, I noticed that it was a lot more alive and kicking than I thought
> it was. So it's not so much "we should flip to avoid a bitrotting
> dependency" as it is "asciidoctor is arguably nicer" or "it's the way
> forward".

If we start to change the documentation format to "the way  forward", we
may soon end up with a format which is no longer handled by the legacy
asciidoc.py

As stated on https://github.com/asciidoc-py/asciidoc-py :

"AsciiDoc.py is a legacy processor for this syntax, handling an older
rendition of AsciiDoc. As such, this will not properly handle the
current AsciiDoc specification. It is suggested that unless you
specifically require the AsciiDoc.py toolchain, you should find a
processor that handles the modern AsciiDoc syntax."


So, as soon as the asciidoc format formal specification will gain
traction in the public, we can expect asciidoc to be abandoned for new
projects and receive minimal maintenance only for compatibility with
legacy documentation.

One argument in favor of Asciidoctor is that it's delivered "with
batteries", meaning that you can generate manpages, html and even pdf
with the same tool, without requiring secondary or even tertiary
toolchains, which should ease usage on a broader range of platforms.

FWIW, we are already using Asciidoctor for publishing the manpages to
https://git-scm.com

JN



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-11  9:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-07  6:06 [RFC suggestion] Generate manpage directly with Asciidoctor Bagas Sanjaya
2021-05-07 12:02 ` Randall S. Becker
2021-05-07 22:55   ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-07 22:57   ` brian m. carlson
2021-05-08  1:42     ` Randall S. Becker
2021-05-07 12:27 ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-05-07 12:47   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-05-07 23:03   ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-08  4:27     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-05-07 20:25 ` brian m. carlson
2021-05-07 22:19   ` Jeff King
2021-05-08  4:22     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-05-09  8:20     ` Martin Ågren
2021-05-09 18:46       ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-10 18:43         ` Martin Ågren
2021-05-10 22:24       ` Jeff King
2021-05-11  4:27         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-11  6:13           ` Jeff King
2021-05-11  8:03             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-11 12:44               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-11 19:00                 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-11 19:09                   ` Jeff King
2021-05-11 20:22                     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-11 23:14           ` brian m. carlson
2021-05-12  1:44             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-11 18:45         ` Martin Ågren
2021-05-11 19:07           ` Jeff King
2021-05-11 19:11             ` Martin Ågren
2021-05-11 20:14             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-11  9:04       ` Jean-Noël Avila [this message]
2021-05-11 18:54         ` Martin Ågren
2021-05-07 23:35   ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-07 23:57     ` brian m. carlson
2021-05-08  3:10       ` Jeff King
2021-05-08  3:23         ` Jeff King
2021-05-09  0:22         ` brian m. carlson
2021-05-09  8:29     ` Martin Ågren
2021-05-07 22:48 ` Felipe Contreras

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