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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Eric Wong" <e@80x24.org>,
	"Johannes Sixt" <j6t@kdbg.org>,
	"Alban Gruin" <alban.gruin@gmail.com>,
	"Phillip Wood" <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: re-mentioning --preserve-merges in the docs
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2022 15:24:51 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <084n300p-4qp2-qp6n-232o-qs7po3q375n7@tzk.qr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqwnc6fcik.fsf@gitster.g>

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Hi Junio,

On Thu, 21 Jul 2022, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On Tue, Sep 07 2021, Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget wrote:
> >
> >> From: Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
> >> [...]
> >> --p::
> >> ---preserve-merges::
> >> -	[DEPRECATED: use `--rebase-merges` instead] Recreate merge commits
> >> -	instead of flattening the history by replaying commits a merge commit
> >> -	introduces. Merge conflict resolutions or manual amendments to merge
> >> -	commits are not preserved.
> >
> > [In reply to an old commit]
> >
> > I opened "man git-rebase" today due to an on-list discussion and went
> > through pretty much:
> >
> >  1. /preserve-merges # fails
> >  2. skimming the SYNOPSIS, forgetting what the new thing is called
> >  3. Paging down, eventually findinging & remembering the new thing is
> >     "--rebase-merges".
> >
> > I wonder if there's objections to reinstating this in the docs
> > somewhere, just as something like:
> >
> > 	--preserve-merges:
> > 		An old "rebase" backend which is no longer supported,
> > 		and which was removed from git in version v2.35.0.
> >
> > We don't do that with all flags that we've dropped, but perhaps this one
> > was well known enough to not leave readers hanging...
>
> My impression is that we consider that we have done so already for a
> few releases by keeping "DEPRECATED: use rebase-merges", exactly
> because "this one was well known enough", and now it is time to go
> one step further, i.e. drop it from the document like the quoted
> patch does, while recognising an attempt to use the option and
> giving a custom message than the bog-standard "unknown option".
>
>     $ git rebase --preserve-merges
>     fatal: --preserve-merges was replaced by --rebase-merges
>     Note: Your `pull.rebase` configuration may also be set to 'preserve',
>     which is no longer supported; use 'merges' instead
>
> The next step will be to drop that custom error support, I think.

Fully agree.

I _could_ see us introducing a sentence in the explanation of
`--rebase-merges` that leaves a historical note about superseding the
now-removed `--preserve-merges` option. But such historical notes tend to
go pretty stale pretty quickly, and eventually cause more confusion than
clarification.

So just like you said, I'd rather not re-introduce any text mentioning
`--preserve-merges` into the manual page.

Ciao,
Dscho

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-29 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-23 20:50 [PATCH 0/8] Drop support for git rebase --preserve-merges Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-11-23 20:50 ` [PATCH 1/8] t5520: do not use `pull.rebase=preserve` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-11-23 20:50 ` [PATCH 2/8] remote: warn about unhandled branch.<name>.rebase values Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-11-23 20:50 ` [PATCH 3/8] tests: stop testing `git rebase --preserve-merges` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-11-23 20:50 ` [PATCH 4/8] pull: remove support for `--rebase=preserve` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-11-23 20:50 ` [PATCH 5/8] rebase: drop support for `--preserve-merges` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-11-23 20:50 ` [PATCH 6/8] git-svn: " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-11-23 22:08   ` Eric Wong
2019-11-24 21:29     ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-11-25  3:15       ` Eric Wong
2019-11-23 20:50 ` [PATCH 7/8] rebase: drop the internal `rebase--interactive` command Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-11-23 20:50 ` [PATCH 8/8] remote: no longer claim that branch.*.rebase=preserve is a thing Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 11:57 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] Drop support for git rebase --preserve-merges Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 11:57   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] t5520: do not use `pull.rebase=preserve` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 11:57   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] remote: warn about unhandled branch.<name>.rebase values Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 11:57   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] tests: stop testing `git rebase --preserve-merges` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 13:26     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-01 11:57   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] pull: remove support for `--rebase=preserve` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 11:57   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] rebase: drop support for `--preserve-merges` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 12:21     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-02 13:54       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-02 14:11         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-01 13:33     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-02 13:59       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-02 14:16         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-02 14:28     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-02 14:34     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-02 14:56       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-02 15:34         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-04 19:41       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-05  7:32         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-05 22:36           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-06 10:15     ` Phillip Wood
2021-09-07 12:32       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-07 15:31         ` Phillip Wood
2021-09-07 19:44           ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-01 11:57   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] git-svn: " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 13:25     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-02 14:00       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-02 14:08       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-01 11:57   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] rebase: drop the internal `rebase--interactive` command Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06 10:10     ` Phillip Wood
2021-09-07 12:39       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-01 13:37   ` [PATCH v2 0/7] Drop support for git rebase --preserve-merges Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-02 14:16     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-02 14:51       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-01 22:25   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-02 14:18     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-02 20:06       ` Johannes Sixt
2021-09-07 17:33         ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-07 22:48           ` Elijah Newren
2021-09-10 12:08             ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-10 17:16               ` Elijah Newren
2021-09-13 11:24                 ` merge-ort and --rebase-merges, was " Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-13 15:53                   ` Elijah Newren
2021-09-06  6:58     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-07 18:27       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-07 19:52         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-04 22:30   ` Alban Gruin
2021-09-06 10:17     ` Phillip Wood
2021-09-07 12:48     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-07 21:05   ` [PATCH v3 00/11] " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 01/11] t5520: do not use `pull.rebase=preserve` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 02/11] remote: warn about unhandled branch.<name>.rebase values Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 03/11] tests: stop testing `git rebase --preserve-merges` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 04/11] pull: remove support for `--rebase=preserve` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 05/11] rebase: drop support for `--preserve-merges` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-10 14:53       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-21 19:02       ` re-mentioning --preserve-merges in the docs (was: [PATCH v3 05/11] rebase: drop support for `--preserve-merges`) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-21 20:15         ` re-mentioning --preserve-merges in the docs Junio C Hamano
2022-07-29 13:24           ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 06/11] git-svn: drop support for `--preserve-merges` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 07/11] rebase: drop the internal `rebase--interactive` command Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 08/11] rebase: remove obsolete code comment Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 09/11] rebase: stop mentioning the -p option in comments Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 10/11] rebase: remove a no-longer-used function Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 11/11] sequencer: restrict scope of a formerly public function Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-08  1:30     ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Drop support for git rebase --preserve-merges Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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