From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
"Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, newren@gmail.com, gitster@pobox.com,
matheus.bernardino@usp.br, vdye@github.com,
Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>,
Derrick Stolee <dstolee@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 14/14] advice: update message to suggest '--sparse'
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 12:54:11 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <07454056-0123-876e-1a03-2b6b01497c1c@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pmtd5tkj.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com>
On 9/12/2021 5:58 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
...
>> cat >sparse_error_header <<-EOF &&
>> - The following pathspecs didn't match any eligible path, but they do match index
>> - entries outside the current sparse checkout:
>> + The following paths and/or pathspecs matched paths that exist outside of your
>> + sparse-checkout definition, so will not be updated in the index:
>> EOF
>>
>> cat >sparse_hint <<-EOF &&
>> - hint: Disable or modify the sparsity rules if you intend to update such entries.
>> + hint: Disable or modify the sparsity rules or use the --sparse option if you intend to update such entries.
>> hint: Disable this message with \"git config advice.updateSparsePath false\"
>> EOF
>
> ...this used to line-wrap at 80 characters, but is now a bit beyond
> that.
>
> Maybe instead make these two into bullet-points?
Do you mean something like this?
hint: If you intend to update such entries, try one of the following:
hint: * Use the --sparse option.
hint: * Disable or modify the sparsity rules.
> Also the third "Disable" looks a bit jarring at first, it seems like a
> continuation of the first message, but it's just the standard "disable
> this message" we tend to print out.
With the bullet points, this is no longer a concern.
> This commentary pre-dates this commit, but just in general:
>
> I think the advice system is best used where there's an initial
> non-optional message, and then the advice elaborates on what happened,
> how to fix it. A good example is the "short object ID %s is ambiguous"
> in object-name.c.
>
> But in this case both messages are rather long. I'd think better would
> be something like (and I didn't look very deeply at the involved code):
>
> error("pathspec '%s' matched only outside sparse checkout")
>
> I.e. in e.g. cmd_rm() we loop through the pathspecs, and we error on the
> first one, so to a first approximation why do we need to for sparse emit
> ALL the pathspecs we didn't match? if we're going to error out anyway
> shouldn'w we just error out on the first one?
If we don't list the entire set, then users will need to use trial
and error to discover how to get out of a bad state.
> But going on, I'd think this would be better overall (pseudocode):
>
> error("pathspec '%s' matched only outside sparse checkout")
> if (advice_enabled(ADVICE_UPDATE_SPARSE_PATH)) {
> char *list_str;
> list_of_bad_pathspecs = make_that_list(my_pathspec_string_list, &list_str);
>
> if (list_of_bad_pathspecs.nr > 1)
> /* Emit a message that details what's wrong, but also has a
> * list of all the other pathspecs we'd also die on if the user */
> else
> /* Ditto, but no list *?
I'm not a fan of this "here's an error message for the first thing, but
the advice gives all the details" approach.
> Maybe I'm missing something with the sparse implemention, but I'd think
> going above & beyond and listing all failures is a bit much in either
> case, i.e. for non-sparse we have:
>
> $ git rm 'file-i-do-not-have' 'directory-i-do-not-have/'
> fatal: pathspec 'file-i-do-not-have' did not match any files
> $
>
> I'd think in general a user who's screwed up and typo'd both isn't going
> to be much harmed by us noting the first, maybe they'll get another
> error then.
>
> But usually it's obvious (e.g. you just ran the command in the wrong
> directory), so if you have a large list of pathspecs getting a firehose
> of all the things that didn't match can be less helpful due to being
> overrly verbose.
The difference here is a die() versus an error(). It would probably
be better to convert the die() into an error() and report all failures
rather than have the sparse-checkout changes start short-circuiting
and providing less data.
Thanks,
-Stolee
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-15 16:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-24 21:54 [PATCH 00/13] [RFC] Sparse-checkout: modify 'git add', 'git rm', and 'git add' behavior Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-08-24 21:54 ` [PATCH 01/13] t1092: behavior for adding sparse files Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-08-24 21:54 ` [PATCH 02/13] dir: extract directory-matching logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-08-24 21:54 ` [PATCH 03/13] dir: select directories correctly Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-24 7:44 ` René Scharfe
2021-08-24 21:54 ` [PATCH 04/13] dir: fix pattern matching on dirs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-08-24 21:54 ` [PATCH 05/13] add: fail when adding an untracked sparse file Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-08-27 21:06 ` Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2021-08-27 22:50 ` Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2021-09-08 17:54 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-08-24 21:54 ` [PATCH 06/13] add: skip paths that are outside sparse-checkout cone Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-08-27 21:13 ` Matheus Tavares
2021-09-08 19:46 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-09-08 20:02 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-09-08 21:06 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-08-24 21:54 ` [PATCH 07/13] add: implement the --sparse option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-08-27 21:14 ` Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2021-08-24 21:54 ` [PATCH 08/13] add: prevent adding sparse conflict files Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-08-27 21:16 ` Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2021-08-24 21:54 ` [PATCH 09/13] rm: add --sparse option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-08-27 21:17 ` Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2021-09-08 18:04 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-08-24 21:54 ` [PATCH 10/13] rm: skip sparse paths with missing SKIP_WORKTREE Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-08-27 21:18 ` Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2021-08-24 21:54 ` [PATCH 11/13] mv: refuse to move sparse paths Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-08-27 21:20 ` Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2021-08-27 23:44 ` Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2021-09-08 18:41 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-08-24 21:54 ` [PATCH 12/13] mv: add '--sparse' option to ignore sparse-checkout Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-08-28 14:18 ` Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2021-08-24 21:54 ` [PATCH 13/13] advice: update message to suggest '--sparse' Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-12 13:23 ` [PATCH v2 00/14] Sparse-checkout: modify 'git add', 'git rm', and 'git add' behavior Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-12 13:23 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] t3705: test that 'sparse_entry' is unstaged Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-15 5:22 ` Elijah Newren
2021-09-15 16:17 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-09-15 16:32 ` Matheus Tavares
2021-09-15 16:42 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-09-12 13:23 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] t1092: behavior for adding sparse files Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-12 22:17 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 15:02 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-09-12 13:23 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] dir: extract directory-matching logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-12 13:23 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] dir: select directories correctly Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-12 22:21 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-15 14:41 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-09-15 14:54 ` Elijah Newren
2021-09-15 16:43 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-09-12 13:23 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] dir: fix pattern matching on dirs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-12 13:23 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] add: fail when adding an untracked sparse file Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-12 13:23 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] add: skip tracked paths outside sparse-checkout cone Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-12 13:23 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] add: implement the --sparse option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-15 16:59 ` Elijah Newren
2021-09-20 15:45 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-09-12 13:23 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] add: update --chmod to skip sparse paths Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-12 13:23 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] add: update --renormalize " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-12 13:23 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] rm: add --sparse option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-12 13:23 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] rm: skip sparse paths with missing SKIP_WORKTREE Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-12 13:23 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] mv: refuse to move sparse paths Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-12 13:23 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] advice: update message to suggest '--sparse' Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-12 21:58 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-15 16:54 ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2021-09-15 20:18 ` [PATCH v2 00/14] Sparse-checkout: modify 'git add', 'git rm', and 'git add' behavior Elijah Newren
2021-09-20 17:45 ` [PATCH v3 " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-20 17:45 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] t3705: test that 'sparse_entry' is unstaged Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-22 22:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-20 17:45 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] t1092: behavior for adding sparse files Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-22 23:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-23 13:37 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-09-20 17:45 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] dir: extract directory-matching logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-22 23:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-23 13:39 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-09-23 13:42 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-09-23 18:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-24 13:29 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-09-20 17:45 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] dir: select directories correctly Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-20 17:45 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] dir: fix pattern matching on dirs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-20 17:45 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] add: fail when adding an untracked sparse file Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-20 17:45 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] add: skip tracked paths outside sparse-checkout cone Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-20 17:45 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] add: implement the --sparse option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-20 17:45 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] add: update --chmod to skip sparse paths Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-20 17:45 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] add: update --renormalize " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-20 17:45 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] rm: add --sparse option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-20 17:45 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] rm: skip sparse paths with missing SKIP_WORKTREE Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-20 17:45 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] mv: refuse to move sparse paths Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-20 17:45 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] advice: update message to suggest '--sparse' Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-24 6:08 ` [PATCH v3 00/14] Sparse-checkout: modify 'git add', 'git rm', and 'git add' behavior Elijah Newren
2021-09-24 15:39 ` [PATCH v4 00/13] Sparse-checkout: modify 'git add', 'git rm', and 'git mv' behavior Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-24 15:39 ` [PATCH v4 01/13] t3705: test that 'sparse_entry' is unstaged Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-24 15:39 ` [PATCH v4 02/13] t1092: behavior for adding sparse files Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-24 15:39 ` [PATCH v4 03/13] dir: select directories correctly Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-24 15:39 ` [PATCH v4 04/13] dir: fix pattern matching on dirs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-11-02 0:15 ` Glen Choo
2021-11-02 0:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-02 13:42 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-11-02 14:50 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-11-02 15:33 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-03 14:40 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-11-03 17:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-24 15:39 ` [PATCH v4 05/13] add: fail when adding an untracked sparse file Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-24 15:39 ` [PATCH v4 06/13] add: skip tracked paths outside sparse-checkout cone Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-24 15:39 ` [PATCH v4 07/13] add: implement the --sparse option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-24 15:39 ` [PATCH v4 08/13] add: update --chmod to skip sparse paths Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-24 15:39 ` [PATCH v4 09/13] add: update --renormalize " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-24 15:39 ` [PATCH v4 10/13] rm: add --sparse option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-24 15:39 ` [PATCH v4 11/13] rm: skip sparse paths with missing SKIP_WORKTREE Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-24 15:39 ` [PATCH v4 12/13] mv: refuse to move sparse paths Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-24 15:39 ` [PATCH v4 13/13] advice: update message to suggest '--sparse' Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-09-27 15:51 ` [PATCH v4 00/13] Sparse-checkout: modify 'git add', 'git rm', and 'git mv' behavior Elijah Newren
2021-09-27 20:51 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-18 21:28 ` [PATCH v2 00/14] Sparse-checkout: modify 'git add', 'git rm', and 'git add' behavior Sean Christopherson
2021-10-19 12:29 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-10-19 16:50 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-10-20 13:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-20 14:28 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-10-22 2:28 ` [RFC PATCH] add|rm|mv: fix bug that prevent the update of non-sparse Matheus Tavares
2021-10-22 4:03 ` Matheus Tavares
2021-10-25 16:40 ` Derrick Stolee
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