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From: "Randall S. Becker" <rsbecker@nexbridge.com>
To: "'Junio C Hamano'" <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "'Felipe Contreras'" <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
	"'Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason'" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "'Alex Henrie'" <alexhenrie24@gmail.com>,
	"'Richard Hansen'" <rhansen@rhansen.org>
Subject: RE: [RFC PATCH 01/35] merge: improve fatal fast-forward message
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 17:31:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <04e001d772ae$3d87e0b0$b897a210$@nexbridge.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqq1r8bi2l0.fsf@gitster.g>

On July 6, 2021 4:56 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>"Randall S. Becker" <rsbecker@nexbridge.com> writes:
>
>>>If you do:
>>>
>>>  % git merge --ff-only
>>>  fatal: Not possible to fast-forward, aborting.
>>>
>>>That "aborting" part is redundant; we know `git merge` should abort
>> if the fast-forward is not possible, we explicitely told git to do
>> that.
>>
>> `git merge` is a special operation where errors (conflicts, for one)
>> may leave the repository in a merge pending state where you
>> subsequently may have to use `git merge --abort` to reset the
>> situation or `git add` to continue. The `aborting` output makes it
>> clear that you do not have to do the `--abort` and *cannot* do the
>> `add` because there was an implicit `--abort` done resulting from the
>> failure. This is important information for the user.
>
>If so, adding ", aborting" to the end is misleading.  In this particular failure mode, the command pretends that the merge did not even
>start.

You know that, and I know that. I contend that git users do not generally want to care about failure modes. While a flow description might be instructive, I doubt many git users would look at it. We can only hope that front ends know how to make this clean for them.

-Randall


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-07-06 21:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-05 12:31 [RFC PATCH 00/35] git update: fix broken git pull Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 01/35] merge: improve fatal fast-forward message Felipe Contreras
2021-07-06 20:07   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-06 20:39     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-07-06 20:48       ` Randall S. Becker
2021-07-06 20:56         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-06 21:15           ` Felipe Contreras
2021-07-06 21:31           ` Randall S. Becker [this message]
2021-07-06 21:54             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-06 22:26               ` Randall S. Becker
2021-07-06 21:11         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-07-06 21:27           ` Randall S. Becker
2021-07-06 22:14             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 02/35] merge: split cmd_merge() Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 03/35] fast-forward: add new builtin Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 04/35] doc: fast-forward: explain what it is Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 05/35] fast-forward: add advice for novices Felipe Contreras
2021-07-06 20:09   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-06 20:42     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 06/35] fast-forward: make the advise configurable Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 07/35] fast-forward: add help about merge vs. rebase Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 08/35] update: new built-in Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 09/35] update: add options and usage skeleton Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 10/35] update: add --ff option Felipe Contreras
2021-07-06 20:12   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-06 20:46     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 11/35] update: add --merge mode Felipe Contreras
2021-07-06 20:13   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-06 20:51     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 12/35] commit: support for multiple MERGE_MODE Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 13/35] merge: add --reverse-parents option Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 14/35] update: reverse the order of parents Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 15/35] update: fake a reverse order of parents in message Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 16/35] update: add --rebase mode Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 17/35] update: add mode configuation Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 18/35] update: add per-branch mode configuration Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 19/35] pull: cleanup autostash check Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 20/35] pull: trivial cleanup Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 21/35] pull: trivial whitespace style fix Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 22/35] pull: introduce --merge option Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 23/35] rebase: add REBASE_DEFAULT Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 24/35] pull: move configuration fetches Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH 25/35] pull: show warning with --ff options Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:32 ` [RFC PATCH 26/35] pull: add pull.mode Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:32 ` [RFC PATCH 27/35] pull: add per-branch mode configuration Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:32 ` [RFC PATCH 28/35] pull: add pull.mode=fast-forward Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:32 ` [RFC PATCH 29/35] pull: reorganize mode conditionals Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:32 ` [RFC PATCH 30/35] pull: add diverging advice on fast-forward mode Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:32 ` [RFC PATCH 31/35] pull: improve --rebase and pull.rebase interaction Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:32 ` [RFC PATCH 32/35] pull: improve default warning Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:32 ` [RFC PATCH 33/35] pull: advice of future changes Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:32 ` [RFC PATCH 34/35] FUTURE: pull: enable ff-only mode by default Felipe Contreras
2021-07-05 12:32 ` [RFC PATCH 35/35] !fixup " Felipe Contreras

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