From: "Randall S. Becker" <rsbecker@nexbridge.com>
To: "'Nathaniel Manista'" <nathaniel@google.com>, <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [ISSUE] Stop accessing, storing, and sharing the user's time zone
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 12:33:13 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <047b01d5ab92$159a8240$40cf86c0$@nexbridge.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEOYnAQYMrNAe9s1V-0DVLdL-B_KpHMDP5e=yRnbCkMWdrvFHQ@mail.gmail.com>
On December 5, 2019 12:14 PM, Nathaniel Manista wrote:
> (This is also filed at https://bugs.chromium.org/p/git/issues/detail?id=43.)
Getting permission denied trying to access this.
> Affected Version: All? This has been bothering me at least a year.
>
> What steps will reproduce the problem?
> 1. Author a commit.
> 2. "git log --pretty=fuller"
>
> What is the expected output?
> The log will display that the timestamps of the commit have both the
> author time and committer time in UTC. Internally no part of the
> commit will have stored any time zone information and when the commit
> is shared with others no information about where the user was in the
> world at the time of the commit will be obtainable from it.
>
> What do you see instead?
> Authoring and sharing a commit by default exposes the user's time zone.
>
> Additional context:
> "commit --date=YYYY-MM-DDThh:mm:ss+0000" suffices to put the author
> time in UTC but not the commit time in UTC. But the user shouldn't
> have to pass a flag at all.
>
> Where the user is in the world is PII that git ought not to record and
> make available as part of the user's software engineering (make
> available to colleagues, in the case of proprietary development, and
> make available to the world, in the case of open source). Git should
> entirely stop accessing, recording, and sharing the user's time zone,
> full stop. Failing that, git should by default stop accessing,
> recording, and sharing the user's time zone, but if individual users
> want to have their time zones on their commits, they can opt into it.
> Failing that, users should be able to add a .gitconfig line to ensure
> that all author timestamps, all committer timestamps, and any other
> information are in UTC.
My position has been UTC as the standard in all cases with storing LCT as an optional only. I like the opt-in concept. I currently am running a repository located at UTC+2, with developers at UTC-5. It is driving us a bit wonky. I would rather see only UTC.
Regards,
Randall
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-12-05 17:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-12-05 17:14 Nathaniel Manista
2019-12-05 17:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-05 17:33 ` Randall S. Becker [this message]
2019-12-05 17:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-05 17:53 ` Santiago Torres Arias
2019-12-05 18:00 ` Randall S. Becker
2020-09-30 23:21 ` [RFC PATCH 0/1] adding user.hideTimezone for setting UTC timezone Shengfa Lin
2020-09-30 23:21 ` [RFC PATCH 1/1] hideTimezone: add a user.hideTimezone config Shengfa Lin
2020-09-30 23:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-01 0:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-02 6:07 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-01 0:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-01 0:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-02 6:41 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-02 6:46 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-02 6:37 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-02 6:02 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-02 6:15 ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-10-02 22:32 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-03 4:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-09-30 23:55 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-02 6:51 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-01 0:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-01 2:44 ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-10-02 21:17 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-09-30 23:53 ` [RFC PATCH 0/1] adding user.hideTimezone for setting UTC timezone Junio C Hamano
2020-10-01 2:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-01 3:43 ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-10-01 15:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-08 19:49 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <CAEOYnASgxCE5NjhoSgDwyQyAmdLhw5UyFq_Fu==8q7y6uXGz6w@mail.gmail.com>
2020-10-09 16:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-02 21:56 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-02 22:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-03 3:50 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-03 4:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-03 19:53 ` brian m. carlson
2020-10-03 22:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-02 21:42 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-02 21:23 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-13 5:28 ` [WIP v2 0/2] experiment with commit option record-time-zone Shengfa Lin
2020-10-13 5:28 ` [WIP v2 1/2] Adding a record-time-zone command option for commit Shengfa Lin
2020-10-13 20:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-21 5:01 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-21 18:55 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-22 16:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-26 4:14 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-13 5:28 ` [WIP v2 2/2] Demonstrate failing and passing tests Shengfa Lin
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