From: "Randall S. Becker" <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: "'Nathaniel Manista'" <email@example.com>, <firstname.lastname@example.org> Subject: RE: [ISSUE] Stop accessing, storing, and sharing the user's time zone Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 12:33:13 -0500 [thread overview] Message-ID: <email@example.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CAEOYnAQYMrNAe9s1V-0DVLdL-B_KpHMDP5e=yRnbCkMWdrvFHQ@mail.gmail.com> On December 5, 2019 12:14 PM, Nathaniel Manista wrote: > (This is also filed at https://bugs.chromium.org/p/git/issues/detail?id=43.) Getting permission denied trying to access this. > Affected Version: All? This has been bothering me at least a year. > > What steps will reproduce the problem? > 1. Author a commit. > 2. "git log --pretty=fuller" > > What is the expected output? > The log will display that the timestamps of the commit have both the > author time and committer time in UTC. Internally no part of the > commit will have stored any time zone information and when the commit > is shared with others no information about where the user was in the > world at the time of the commit will be obtainable from it. > > What do you see instead? > Authoring and sharing a commit by default exposes the user's time zone. > > Additional context: > "commit --date=YYYY-MM-DDThh:mm:ss+0000" suffices to put the author > time in UTC but not the commit time in UTC. But the user shouldn't > have to pass a flag at all. > > Where the user is in the world is PII that git ought not to record and > make available as part of the user's software engineering (make > available to colleagues, in the case of proprietary development, and > make available to the world, in the case of open source). Git should > entirely stop accessing, recording, and sharing the user's time zone, > full stop. Failing that, git should by default stop accessing, > recording, and sharing the user's time zone, but if individual users > want to have their time zones on their commits, they can opt into it. > Failing that, users should be able to add a .gitconfig line to ensure > that all author timestamps, all committer timestamps, and any other > information are in UTC. My position has been UTC as the standard in all cases with storing LCT as an optional only. I like the opt-in concept. I currently am running a repository located at UTC+2, with developers at UTC-5. It is driving us a bit wonky. I would rather see only UTC. Regards, Randall
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-12-05 17:33 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2019-12-05 17:14 Nathaniel Manista 2019-12-05 17:31 ` Junio C Hamano 2019-12-05 17:33 ` Randall S. Becker [this message] 2019-12-05 17:43 ` Junio C Hamano 2019-12-05 17:53 ` Santiago Torres Arias 2019-12-05 18:00 ` Randall S. Becker 2020-09-30 23:21 ` [RFC PATCH 0/1] adding user.hideTimezone for setting UTC timezone Shengfa Lin 2020-09-30 23:21 ` [RFC PATCH 1/1] hideTimezone: add a user.hideTimezone config Shengfa Lin 2020-09-30 23:41 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-10-01 0:17 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-10-02 6:07 ` Shengfa Lin 2020-10-01 0:31 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-10-01 0:35 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-10-02 6:41 ` Shengfa Lin 2020-10-02 6:46 ` Shengfa Lin 2020-10-02 6:37 ` Shengfa Lin 2020-10-02 6:02 ` Shengfa Lin 2020-10-02 6:15 ` Jonathan Nieder 2020-10-02 22:32 ` Shengfa Lin 2020-10-03 4:57 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-09-30 23:55 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-10-02 6:51 ` Shengfa Lin 2020-10-01 0:05 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-10-01 2:44 ` Jonathan Nieder 2020-10-02 21:17 ` Shengfa Lin 2020-09-30 23:53 ` [RFC PATCH 0/1] adding user.hideTimezone for setting UTC timezone Junio C Hamano 2020-10-01 2:17 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-10-01 3:43 ` Jonathan Nieder 2020-10-01 15:48 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-10-08 19:49 ` Junio C Hamano [not found] ` <CAEOYnASgxCE5NjhoSgDwyQyAmdLhw5UyFq_Fu==8q7y6uXGz6w@mail.gmail.com> 2020-10-09 16:48 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-10-02 21:56 ` Shengfa Lin 2020-10-02 22:06 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-10-03 3:50 ` Shengfa Lin 2020-10-03 4:42 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-10-03 19:53 ` brian m. carlson 2020-10-03 22:14 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-10-02 21:42 ` Shengfa Lin 2020-10-02 21:23 ` Shengfa Lin 2020-10-13 5:28 ` [WIP v2 0/2] experiment with commit option record-time-zone Shengfa Lin 2020-10-13 5:28 ` [WIP v2 1/2] Adding a record-time-zone command option for commit Shengfa Lin 2020-10-13 20:03 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-10-21 5:01 ` Shengfa Lin 2020-10-21 18:55 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-10-22 16:27 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-10-26 4:14 ` Shengfa Lin 2020-10-13 5:28 ` [WIP v2 2/2] Demonstrate failing and passing tests Shengfa Lin
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