From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>
Cc: Denton Liu <liu.denton@gmail.com>, Git List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
git@sfconservancy.org, Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
garimasigit@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] CODE_OF_CONDUCT: mention individual project-leader emails
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 08:16:20 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0188e484-20d4-59b1-5fdd-bbaecdc1819a@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190926072046.GB20653@sigill.intra.peff.net>
On 9/26/2019 3:20 AM, Jeff King wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 04:52:56PM -0700, Emily Shaffer wrote:
>
>>>> I've cc'd git@sfconservancy.org here, because I think it's important for
>>>> all of the project committee members to endorse it (and because the
>>>> document puts us on the hook for enforcing it!).
>>>
>>> I tried looking it up but I couldn't find who the project committee
>>> members are. Is this list published anywhere? More on that later...
>>
>> To be honest, I'm a little worried about it too. What if I have a
>> problem with someone on the project committee? What if I have a
>> problem with someone I don't know is on the project committee?
>
> I think those are very good points. See the patch below.
>
>> I helped my other FOSS project to adopt a Code of Conduct earlier in
>> the year (https://github.com/openbmc/docs/blob/master/code-of-conduct.md)
>> and we got around this by asking for volunteers from the technical
>> steering committee to agree to have their contact info listed on the
>> escalation path; at the end of the escalation path we also listed
>> someone external to the project (which we were able to do because we
>> had been adopted by the Linux Foundation, and they have someone for
>> that).
>
> Yeah, I think this is sort of the same thing except that I
> pre-volunteered the whole project committee. ;)
>
> We could have a separate list of contacts for the code of conduct, but
> it seems simplest to just use the existing group that we already have,
> unless there's a compelling reason not to.
>
>> A possible con of being on this escalation path is having your name
>> and contact info outed to trolls as a supporter of something
>> controversial like a code of conduct. However, I'd argue that the
>> growing list of ACKs on this thread expose us in a similar way. On the
>> other side, the benefit of having a transparent escalation path like
>> this is that you can bypass a problematic individual who may be in a
>> position of power. It also provides an opportunity for increased
>> discretion in delicate situations like the example Peff gave
>> downthread.
>
> Yep, agreed with all of this.
>
> So here's a patch that I think improves the situation.
>
> -- >8 --
> Subject: [PATCH] CODE_OF_CONDUCT: mention individual project-leader emails
>
> It's possible that somebody on the project committee is the subject of a
> complaint. In that case, it may be useful to be able to contact the
> other members individually, so let's make it clear that's an option.
>
> This also serves to enumerate the set of people on the committee. That
> lets you easily _know_ if you're in the situation mentioned above. And
> it's just convenient to list who's involved in the process, since the
> project committee list is not anywhere else in the repository.
I think this handles the conflict of interest issues. This is likely
never to be needed, but helpful to have.
Thanks,
-Stolee
>
> Signed-off-by: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
> ---
> CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md | 8 ++++++++
> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md b/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md
> index b94f72b0b8..fc4645d5c0 100644
> --- a/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md
> +++ b/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md
> @@ -74,6 +74,14 @@ Project maintainers who do not follow or enforce the Code of Conduct in good
> faith may face temporary or permanent repercussions as determined by other
> members of the project's leadership.
>
> +The project leadership team can be contacted by email as a whole at
> +git@sfconservancy.org, or individually:
> +
> + - Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com>
> + - Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>
> + - Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
> + - Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
> +
> ## Attribution
>
> This Code of Conduct is adapted from the [Contributor Covenant][homepage],
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-09-26 12:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-09-24 6:44 [PATCH] add a Code of Conduct document Jeff King
2019-09-24 9:01 ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-09-24 13:20 ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-09-24 15:50 ` Jeff King
2019-09-25 6:39 ` Daniel Stenberg
2019-09-24 14:40 ` Phillip Wood
2019-09-24 12:13 ` Derrick Stolee
2019-09-24 15:51 ` Jeff King
2019-09-24 14:13 ` Phillip Wood
2019-09-24 16:53 ` Garima Singh
2019-09-24 16:56 ` Deb Nicholson
2019-09-24 17:12 ` Denton Liu
2019-09-24 20:05 ` Pratyush Yadav
2019-09-24 20:10 ` Doug Maxey
2019-09-24 20:52 ` Jeff King
2019-09-24 20:46 ` Jeff King
2019-09-24 23:52 ` Emily Shaffer
2019-09-26 7:20 ` [PATCH] CODE_OF_CONDUCT: mention individual project-leader emails Jeff King
2019-09-26 12:16 ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2019-09-26 21:37 ` Emily Shaffer
2019-09-27 18:58 ` CB Bailey
2019-09-24 17:23 ` [PATCH] add a Code of Conduct document Jonathan Tan
2019-09-24 17:40 ` Thomas Gummerer
2019-09-24 20:14 ` René Scharfe
2019-09-24 21:09 ` Jeff King
2019-09-25 12:34 ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-09-24 23:37 ` brian m. carlson
2019-09-26 17:42 ` Elijah Newren
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