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From: "Alexandre Grigoriev" <alegrigoriev@gmail.com>
To: "'Torsten Bögershausen'" <tboegi@web.de>,
	"'Adrián Gimeno Balaguer'" <adrigibal@gmail.com>
Cc: <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: git-rebase is ignoring working-tree-encoding
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2018 16:56:11 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <002201d49cb5$cc554160$64ffc420$@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181108170230.GA6652@tor.lan>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:git-owner@vger.kernel.org] On
> Behalf Of Torsten Bogershausen
> Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 9:03 AM
> To: Adrián Gimeno Balaguer
> Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: git-rebase is ignoring working-tree-encoding
> 
> On Wed, Nov 07, 2018 at 05:38:18AM +0100, Adrián Gimeno Balaguer wrote:
> > Hello Torsten,
> >
> > Thanks for answering.
> >
> > Answering to your question, I removed the comments with "rebase" since
> > my reported encoding issue happens on more simpler operations
> > (described in the PR), and the problem is not directly related to
> > rebasing, so I considered it better in order to avoid unrelated
> > confusions.
> >

> OK, I think I understand your problem now.
> The file format which you ask for could be named "UTF-16-BOM-LE",
> but that does not exist in reality.
> If you use UTF-16, then there must be a BOM, and if there is a BOM,
> then a Unicode-aware application -should- be able to handle it.
> 
> Why does your project require such a format ?
> 

Many tools in Windows still do not understand UTF-8, although it's getting
better. I think Windows is about the only OS where tools still require
UTF-16 for full internationalization.
Many tools written in C use MSVC RTL, where fopen(), unfortunately, doesn't
understand UTF-16BE (though such a rudimentary program as Notepad does).

For this reason, it's very reasonable to ask that the programming tools
produce UTF-16 files with particular endianness, natural for the platform
they're running on.

The iconv programmers' boneheaded decision to always produce UTF-16BE with
BOM for UTF-16 output doesn't make sense.
Again, git and iconv/libiconv in Centos on x86 do the right thing and
produce UTF-16LE with BOM in this case.

Also, iconv/libiconv should not be rejecting files with BOM for input
encoding UTF-16BE or UTF-16LE.
The BOM is not some magic tag. It's just a zero-width space, with unique
property that its 8 and 16 bit encoding variants can be recognized one from
another. It can appear anywhere in a file.
If it's a first character in the file, then the file encoding can be
reliably detected. But it's just a character, and iconv should be accepting
such files as valid.


  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-26  0:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-02  2:30 git-rebase is ignoring working-tree-encoding Adrián Gimeno Balaguer
2018-11-04 15:47 ` brian m. carlson
2018-11-04 16:37   ` Adrián Gimeno Balaguer
2018-11-04 18:38     ` brian m. carlson
2018-11-04 17:07 ` Torsten Bögershausen
2018-11-05  4:24   ` Adrián Gimeno Balaguer
2018-11-05 18:10     ` Torsten Bögershausen
2018-11-06 20:16       ` Torsten Bögershausen
2018-11-07  4:38         ` Adrián Gimeno Balaguer
2018-11-08 17:02           ` Torsten Bögershausen
2018-12-26  0:56             ` Alexandre Grigoriev [this message]
2018-12-26 19:25               ` brian m. carlson
2018-12-27  2:52                 ` Alexandre Grigoriev
2018-12-27 14:45                   ` Torsten Bögershausen
2018-12-23 14:46   ` Alexandre Grigoriev
2018-12-29 11:09 ` [PATCH/RFC v1 1/1] Support working-tree-encoding "UTF-16LE-BOM" tboegi
     [not found]   ` <CADN+U_OccLuLN7_0rjikDgLT+Zvt8hka-=xsnVVLJORjYzP78Q@mail.gmail.com>
2018-12-29 15:48     ` Adrián Gimeno Balaguer
2018-12-29 17:54       ` Philip Oakley
2019-01-20 16:43 ` [PATCH v2 " tboegi
2019-01-22 20:13   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-01-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 " tboegi
2019-01-30 15:24   ` Jason Pyeron
2019-01-30 17:49     ` Torsten Bögershausen
2019-03-06  5:23 ` [PATCH v1 1/1] gitattributes.txt: fix typo tboegi
2019-03-07  0:24   ` Junio C Hamano

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