From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS22989 209.51.188.0/24 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9C131F5AE for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:33076 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltVJI-0006bh-0Z for normalperson@yhbt.net; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:10:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43008) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltVJF-0006bZ-8k for bug-gnulib@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:10:21 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40248) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltVJF-0004AQ-1h for bug-gnulib@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:10:21 -0400 Received: from pool-96-233-64-159.bstnma.fios.verizon.net ([96.233.64.159]:38348 helo=pdslaptop.home.arpa) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltVJE-0002KQ-Uv for bug-gnulib@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:10:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Seeking input from developers: glibc copyright assignment policy. From: Paul Smith To: Gnulib bugs Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:10:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: <9b5fff12-c16f-799f-6178-000b2e667d24@cs.ucla.edu> <20210615120307.uob7puryy2z3yqjp@redhat.com> Organization: GNU's Not UNIX! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.36.5-0ubuntu1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: bug-gnulib@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Gnulib discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: psmith@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnulib-bounces+normalperson=yhbt.net@gnu.org Sender: "bug-gnulib" On Tue, 2021-06-15 at 22:08 +0100, Pádraig Brady wrote: > Yes the fact that one needs to repeat this process as one changes > employers is very awkward. This is exactly what I was worried about with my previous message: people saying "it's awkward to get my employer to assign copyright so I'd rather use a DCO" when they are not legally allowed to do that. A DCO is not a magic bullet. If your employer has copyright to the changes you made then the DCO is useless to you because the ownership is not yours to certify; you'll STILL have to get your employer to agree to it. If you have the copyright yourself then you don't need your employer to sign anything in the first place! Allowing contributors to follow a simpler process doesn't make the situation less complicated, it just makes it easier to ignore. But ignoring it doesn't make it go away. The assignment is awkward, and it is extra effort, but that effort is not useless or wasted. IMO it's important for the project that people pay attention to this and handle it BEFORE their code is accepted.