From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS22989 209.51.188.0/24 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FF391F8C6 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2021 02:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:53538 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lzVaU-0005IA-RZ for normalperson@yhbt.net; Fri, 02 Jul 2021 22:40:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53760) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lzVaR-0005Hj-J2 for bug-gnulib@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2021 22:40:55 -0400 Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:53526) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lzVaO-0004X9-My for bug-gnulib@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2021 22:40:54 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35BA16008D; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 19:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id HZSgzDBzgFr3; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 19:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4190D1600B2; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 19:40:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 3XHPPPiasVyZ; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 19:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (cpe-172-91-119-151.socal.res.rr.com [172.91.119.151]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1ADA716008D; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 19:40:47 -0700 (PDT) To: Bruno Haible References: <20210702023332.2482490-1-eggert@cs.ucla.edu> <878s2ozq70.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> <4302797.ikRTjI96fm@omega> From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Subject: Re: [PATCH] year2038: support glibc 2.34 _TIME_BITS=64 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 19:40:46 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4302797.ikRTjI96fm@omega> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=131.179.128.68; envelope-from=eggert@cs.ucla.edu; helo=zimbra.cs.ucla.edu X-Spam_score_int: -41 X-Spam_score: -4.2 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: bug-gnulib@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Gnulib discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Florian Weimer , bug-gnulib@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnulib-bounces+normalperson=yhbt.net@gnu.org Sender: "bug-gnulib" On 7/2/21 3:29 PM, Bruno Haible wrote: > the package-by-package approach led to major trouble, and that the > global approach =E2=80=94 use -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=3D64 in all compilati= ons =E2=80=94 > was ultimately the simplest way forward. Yes, that's pretty much my thought as well. Like Bruno, I didn't understand Florian's comments. Any apps and/or=20 libraries compiled with _TIME_BITS=3D64 will have the API issues Bruno=20 mentioned, even if the apps and/or libraries don't use Gnulib. I don't=20 see why these issues would cause distros to abandon 32-bit i386 simply=20 because of Gnulib.