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From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: simon@josefsson.org, bug-gnulib@gnu.org, bug-standards@gnu.org
Subject: Re: cmp/diff
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 20:05:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1ktKV4-0005M9-7s@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8543dba-0030-4a97-948a-fd435c185918@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Sat, 26 Dec 2020 16:23:56 -0800)


   On 12/26/20 4:07 PM, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
   > install-info does not have an replacement, like say egrep/fgrep --
   > this is how we install a dir entry for a info manual.  Removing
   > install-info would be a regression.

   In practice, GNU installation procedures use install-info in the
   way that's described in the proposed patch: they test whether
   install-info is available, and if so they use it.  The
   make-stds.texi file already recomments this practice in its
   "Standard Targets" section. The proposed patch is doing merely
   making make-stds coherent; it's not advocating any change to
   existing best practice for install-info.

The example entry in '(standards) Standard Targets' is I think
orthogonal, it is for the benefit of the user where installing the
node entry is not considered an error but only a "warning" (and then
some extra checks because we want to treat real errors as such).
Which is quite different from the behaviour we have for other programs
-- if you are missing md5sum (or even fgrep) you'd get a hard error.

So I really don't see how it makes it coherent, having install-info as
a "safe" requirement makes logical sense since our prefered
documentation format is info (the original rationale for removing
install-info was "its GNU specific"), and why we do some extra sanity
checks is to be nice to the user.  The change also removes
install-info the only rule where it makes sense to use install-info --
post-installation.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-27  1:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-26 16:24 cmp/diff Simon Josefsson via Gnulib discussion list
2020-12-26 17:32 ` cmp/diff Bruno Haible
2020-12-26 18:34   ` cmp/diff Simon Josefsson via Gnulib discussion list
2020-12-26 18:49     ` cmp/diff Bruno Haible
2020-12-26 19:12       ` cmp/diff Paul Eggert
2020-12-26 21:55         ` cmp/diff Simon Josefsson via Gnulib discussion list
2020-12-26 23:12           ` cmp/diff Paul Eggert
2020-12-27  0:07             ` cmp/diff Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-27  0:23               ` cmp/diff Paul Eggert
2020-12-27  1:05                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt [this message]
2020-12-27  0:07             ` cmp/diff Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-27  0:43             ` egrep, fgrep, and install-info Bruno Haible
2020-12-27  1:12               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-26 19:31       ` cmp/diff Paul Smith

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