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url=https://josefsson.org/key-20190320.txt X-Hashcash: 1:22:210502:bug-gnulib@gnu.org::svpqh+5Xs2FutOgH:A4AQ X-Hashcash: 1:22:210502:bruno@clisp.org::92Qtlg6Wt+/fpJ9t:KIQe X-Hashcash: 1:22:210502:48113@debbugs.gnu.org::tXrBUDMapvTd0CR8:F7R4 X-Hashcash: 1:22:210502:karl@freefriends.org::W2PIvf9/yBA8kL6H:OogE X-Hashcash: 1:22:210502:marc.nieper@gmail.com::vLUwx6kBrpQIqMPa:RQzk Date: Sun, 02 May 2021 09:30:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: <202105012113.141LD0kr031717@freefriends.org> (Karl Berry's message of "Sat, 1 May 2021 15:13:00 -0600") Message-ID: <87lf8x8uei.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:9b1:8633::107; envelope-from=simon@josefsson.org; helo=uggla.sjd.se X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: bug-gnulib@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Gnulib discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnulib-bounces+normalperson=yhbt.net@gnu.org Sender: "bug-gnulib" Reply-to: Simon Josefsson From: Simon Josefsson via Gnulib discussion list --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable severity 48113 wishlist retitle 48113 Self-test timeout functionality thanks Karl Berry writes: > What do bug-automake people think? > > For myself, I have no objection to sprinkling timeout commands through > the Automake test infrastructure wherever appropriate. It's not ever > going to rise to the top of my own list of things to do, though, so if > it's going to happen, you or someone will have to write the patch. > > Of course I don't speak for Jim, but from what he's said in the past, > I suspect he is in a similar situation. Thanks for confirming that it isn't an obviously bad idea. Tagging this as a wishlist bug, and improving the bug title a bit. > No one else has come forward to work on Automake, despite my plea > (https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake/2021-03/msg00018.html), > so I guess that's where we are. Ah right -- I'll see if I can help in any way, but will respond separately. > the functionality could be opt-in initially,=20 > > Certainly. > > and then after a few years become the default behaviour. > > Personally, I think it should be opt-in forever. People could easily > have test suites that need to run for days. I prefer not to > unnecessarily break compatibility. Yes, I probably agree with this -- chosing the default timeout setting is difficult as it will most likely just cause problems for some people with long-running tests, and not solve the initial problem for some other people (that have small projects and a timeout of 5 minutes is what you want). Better leave this up the each project to decide. /Simon --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYIAB0WIQSjzJyHC50xCrrUzy9RcisI/kdFogUCYI5VFQAKCRBRcisI/kdF ogSiAQCDDlSGTlcSevOOZVtgqv38cnxmp7nNWlBdGRjaRh9+2QD9FSi8d49LhtdO tstzQr2ChO8kyeq9jM7tUBbtdlD4GQ8= =HtRV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--