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charset="us-ascii" Received-SPF: none client-ip=81.169.146.219; envelope-from=bruno@clisp.org; helo=mo4-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: bug-gnulib@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gnulib discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnulib-bounces+normalperson=yhbt.net@gnu.org Sender: bug-gnulib-bounces+normalperson=yhbt.net@gnu.org Janneke Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > For the current situtation (that's less than great and are > working on to resolve), making essential GNU packages less > bootstrappable is of no consequence. OK. That's what I conjectured. Thanks for confirming. > Cleaning-up the full-source > bootstrap and making it more or less future-proof, might be challenged > by such a new dependency. I see. So, I wondered whether Python can be compiled by the last C-only GCC, gcc-4.7.3. And yes, Python-3.7.17 (the minimum supported version for gnulib-tool) compiles with gcc-4.7.3. Whereas a newer version, Python-3.12.2, doesn't. > As an example, we have been working on the > RISC-V bootstrap for about a year with three people. One of the > problems here is that RISC-V was only added to a non-bootstrappable > version of GCC: 7.5.0, while the GCC team failed to maintain their last > bootstrappable version: 4.7.4. In other words, the RISC-V backend > needed to backported and someone else now needs to maintain a > bootstrappable version of GCC. Oh, you don't allow yourself to use a cross-compiler from, say, x86? I mean, running a complete x86 bootstrap, followed by the creation of a cross-compiled RISC-V compiler, in a virtualized environment on RISC-V could work in theory (although it would be very slow). Bruno