From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on starla X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A3521F44D for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 07:16:51 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: dcvr.yhbt.net; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=cs.ucla.edu header.i=@cs.ucla.edu header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=9D0B346E-2AEB-11ED-9476-E14B719DCE6C header.b=GOqMAcTi; dkim-atps=neutral Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rynud-0008BU-MR; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 03:16:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rynub-00086G-Ke for bug-gnulib@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 03:16:26 -0400 Received: from mail.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rynuZ-0002wk-Dk for bug-gnulib@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 03:16:25 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF423C011BD8; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 00:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavis, port 10032) with ESMTP id 5erxv2qyfgfz; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 00:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4663C00E40A; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 00:16:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 mail.cs.ucla.edu 8F4663C00E40A DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cs.ucla.edu; s=9D0B346E-2AEB-11ED-9476-E14B719DCE6C; t=1713770180; bh=tGJzSzPmDbRNSLJ3LFEaFVBg7zmfNfyj65+pptQAL2k=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:To:From; b=GOqMAcTi7OC4Nl9groS9oK+f5ogP6FarA1waXuXNos5fclyJI+wEZ87NycH3mGj5S kVR6HqFZCPX2AroAmxfzMkkB5ccf/1oxxkkIe58jdSY37aO8r9enLwos+F6+kTwnm1 WcEhI7JaGP0YT1vjKgs3KRkHo2R0YSmkboOh00WLXG02F8UJizK3Dnd92+2XhZMkIA 0yKa9Q1BC/0rItjDXm+lEGRQZDA6zDL0l/DFwX2d2qFL6NpYMW3EPN7HuK8kYZjcDw gQ1+LzM9gu2/Nda942K9dx9Up9dFcZX0efs2MCqoCcqryHjgf6ZUOsl9/IQnDIFKus bh1M/rLI9nvhw== X-Virus-Scanned: amavis at mail.cs.ucla.edu Received: from mail.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavis, port 10026) with ESMTP id LJheOvSOp2Hr; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 00:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.254.12] (unknown [47.154.17.165]) by mail.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 71A3A3C011BD8; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 00:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3bacae59-6c51-47f1-b712-fa886c28451a@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 00:16:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: GNU gnulib: calling for beta-testers To: Bruno Haible , Mohammad Akhlaghi Cc: bug-gnulib@gnu.org References: <7232287.lbvTjQenqM@nimes> <7ef75a77-ec33-43e0-8e57-8960b09ccd5a@akhlaghi.org> <6053467.Zm5cSgjHh6@nimes> Content-Language: en-US From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department In-Reply-To: <6053467.Zm5cSgjHh6@nimes> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=131.179.128.66; envelope-from=eggert@cs.ucla.edu; helo=mail.cs.ucla.edu X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: bug-gnulib@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gnulib discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnulib-bounces+normalperson=yhbt.net@gnu.org Sender: bug-gnulib-bounces+normalperson=yhbt.net@gnu.org On 2024-04-21 15:27, Bruno Haible wrote: > ISO C, btw, is also "ever-changing" Yes, plus if a language is not "ever-changing" it's dead. The main thing to worry about is when old code stops working not when new language features get added. Since Python 3 came out Python has been reasonably good about dealing with deprecated features.