From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96E901F55B for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2020 19:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:33420 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jfpge-0007H3-PH for normalperson@yhbt.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 15:01:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45090) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jfpga-0007Gq-JE for bug-gnulib@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 15:01:24 -0400 Received: from mo4-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de ([81.169.146.163]:33947) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jfpgY-0004UR-NU for bug-gnulib@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 15:01:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1591038080; s=strato-dkim-0002; d=clisp.org; h=References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Date:Subject:Cc:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH:From:Subject:Sender; bh=KUahIKmAGr8mfVtgk+48PL9fzOwEZ/kiQLyn56qYDlE=; b=nKtytJl3H30SrfO0O0K+LgToXi5PtBuA5Z9GSMyUQh0tYWQio8FoEl/GN6UW1axJ9d CLfuxbssJpu8DQtNNNrS1gJHmlINL4fxcRr208Jx7MFi1VnOy+jL9B+w5+byJXTN7R6u r0naQvU53y6522dkkIDDigQsvMYQfDW20KtGTxOh228TacZliSMSxG1X3esti+zqlaoD ZaGRamFXMtVbtfO1BgS5GcLkH+id+wziU2IZ52aUFpM+v7pIdWYr+2vuOh/4LoPK6z2f /qKYi9TRVEiDiB0Miy8qhwvhYqzhSmUBjlzflhkc5MwgjyiFWCE3EsEHNRRCQILF7NnU G4WA== X-RZG-AUTH: ":Ln4Re0+Ic/6oZXR1YgKryK8brlshOcZlIWs+iCP5vnk6shH+AHjwLuWOH6fzxfs=" X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: from bruno.haible.de by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 46.9.0 DYNA|AUTH) with ESMTPSA id j03713w51J13GFf (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (curve X9_62_prime256v1 with 256 ECDH bits, eq. 3072 bits RSA)) (Client did not present a certificate); Mon, 1 Jun 2020 21:01:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Bruno Haible To: Paul Eggert Subject: Re: getrandom vs. crypto/gc-random Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2020 21:01:02 +0200 Message-ID: <2541102.OfSY6IVP6x@omega> User-Agent: KMail/5.1.3 (Linux/4.4.0-177-generic; KDE/5.18.0; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <9d2535d7-bf66-619a-a875-0f438295c190@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20200525193753.12395-1-eggert@cs.ucla.edu> <1799307.5ezaqJFBqy@omega> <9d2535d7-bf66-619a-a875-0f438295c190@cs.ucla.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Received-SPF: none client-ip=81.169.146.163; envelope-from=bruno@clisp.org; helo=mo4-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/06/01 15:01:20 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: bug-gnulib@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Gnulib discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: noloader@gmail.com, bug-gnulib@gnu.org, Simon Josefsson Errors-To: bug-gnulib-bounces+normalperson=yhbt.net@gnu.org Sender: "bug-gnulib" Hi Paul, > I installed the attached patch to the Gnulib doc, which attempts to address this > along with the GRND_INSECURE business. No guidance regarding getrandom vs. crypto/gc-random any more? We have two modules, 'getrandom' and 'crypto/gc-random' (in fact 3, if you also count 'getentropy'), but no guidance when the users should choose one or the other. As a user, I would expect to find such a guidance. Bruno