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From: Bruno Haible <bruno@clisp.org>
To: Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org>
Cc: Bernhard Voelker <mail@bernhard-voelker.de>,
	Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org>,
	bug-gnulib@gnu.org, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Subject: Re: full-source bootstrap and Python
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:07:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <25178486.DPMGVJSTQ8@nimes> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sezdetz7.fsf@kaka.sjd.se>

Simon Josefsson wrote:
> If we want to minimize the work for full-source bootstrap people we
> increase the cost of people maintaining modern software, and vice versa,

+1

> Consider the
> extreme situation where gnulib-tool version A would require coreutils
> verison B, and coreutils version B+1 would require gnulib-tool version
> A+1, and gnulib-tool version A+2 would require coreutils version B+1 and
> so on for really short release version increments.  Then a full-source
> bootstrap will need to package and keep maintain all those coreutils and
> gnulib-tool versions -- or start to patch things to avoid the
> dependencies.

Right. This way of working was pretty common in the Lisp and Haskell worlds,
many years ago. For gnulib-tool, we're relying on Python 3.7, which is
already 6 years old; so, we are clearly not doing the extreme thing.

Bruno





  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-22 10:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-20  0:22 beta-tester call draft Bruno Haible
2024-04-20  0:39 ` Bruno Haible
2024-04-20  0:56 ` Collin Funk
2024-04-20  1:49   ` Bruno Haible
2024-04-20  4:27 ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-20 22:31   ` gnulib-tool: In sh+py mode, don't fail because of dangling symlinks Bruno Haible
2024-04-20 22:46   ` beta-tester call draft Bruno Haible
2024-04-20  9:38 ` Simon Josefsson via Gnulib discussion list
2024-04-20 22:50   ` gnulib-tool.py speedup Bruno Haible
2024-04-20 23:01     ` Collin Funk
2024-04-20 23:50       ` Bruno Haible
2024-04-21  0:53         ` Collin Funk
2024-04-20 10:21 ` beta-tester call draft Pádraig Brady
2024-04-20 13:05 ` Bernhard Voelker
2024-04-20 22:54   ` Bruno Haible
2024-04-20 22:57     ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-20 23:14       ` Bruno Haible
2024-04-21 10:53         ` Bernhard Voelker
2024-04-21 14:50           ` future Python evolution Bruno Haible
2024-04-21 15:14             ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-21 22:38               ` Bruno Haible
2024-04-22  7:05                 ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-21 15:26             ` Bernhard Voelker
2024-04-28 14:14             ` Bernhard Voelker
2024-04-21 15:15           ` beta-tester call draft Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-21 16:07             ` full-source bootstrap and Python Bruno Haible
2024-04-22  7:29               ` Simon Josefsson via Gnulib discussion list
2024-04-22 10:07                 ` Bruno Haible [this message]
2024-04-22 10:06               ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-22 11:24                 ` Simon Josefsson via Gnulib discussion list
2024-04-22 15:48                 ` Bruno Haible

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