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charset="us-ascii" Received-SPF: none client-ip=85.215.255.25; envelope-from=bruno@clisp.org; helo=mo4-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: bug-gnulib@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gnulib discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnulib-bounces+normalperson=yhbt.net@gnu.org Sender: bug-gnulib-bounces+normalperson=yhbt.net@gnu.org Bernhard Voelker wrote: > The shell seems have to been more safe in that regard. But the concepts of the shell are stuck in the 40-years-ago past. That's why it is not recommendable as a programming language for real programs [1]. > I'd guess most hosts have python installed nowadays ... the question is > rather which version of it, and how compatible it is: > now it's <3.7 which is incompatible (according to your mail), > but in future there might come more incompatibilities with newer versions. Good point. Yes, Python occasionally (rarely?) makes incompatible changes. So, I've now created a continuous integration at [2]. If a Python release is made that breaks gnulib-tool, this CI will notify me shortly afterwards, and we will have time to adapt gnulib-tool, even before the new Python release lands in the various distros. Bruno [1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnulib/2024-03/msg00160.html [2] https://gitlab.com/gnulib/gnulib-tool-ci