From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS22989 209.51.188.0/24 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 978071F5AE for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:21:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:40362 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lrONH-00047e-FS for normalperson@yhbt.net; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 13:21:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51218) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lrOND-00047V-N5 for bug-gnulib@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 13:21:43 -0400 Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:42470) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lrONB-0002qK-AI for bug-gnulib@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 13:21:42 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F60E160100; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 10:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id Ma0XuRJa2zZV; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 10:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18F91600CC; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 10:21:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id D12dyXuJrStg; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 10:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (cpe-172-91-119-151.socal.res.rr.com [172.91.119.151]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CDA93160100; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 10:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: two ill effects of maint.mk To: Bruno Haible References: <2220832.NeGGHjDtpa@omega> <107ba812-c46d-243b-4644-bc3f17f0a89d@cs.ucla.edu> <3602589.5xaz5SmDSz@omega> From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <1ac72169-92b8-a873-d122-3331f8c13552@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 10:21:37 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3602589.5xaz5SmDSz@omega> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=131.179.128.68; envelope-from=eggert@cs.ucla.edu; helo=zimbra.cs.ucla.edu X-Spam_score_int: -41 X-Spam_score: -4.2 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: bug-gnulib@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Gnulib discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: bug-gnulib@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnulib-bounces+normalperson=yhbt.net@gnu.org Sender: "bug-gnulib" On 6/10/21 10:12 AM, Bruno Haible wrote: >> Perhaps we could try to get the best >> of both worlds, by changing it to set LC_ALL to an English UTF-8 locale >> if available, and the C locale if not. > This still would prevent the GNU m4 test suite from producing a test failure > for the aforementioned m4-1.4.19 regression (because the English locale > has less variation regarding the decimal separator than the whole set > of possible locales). True. How about this idea instead? Have the GNUmakefile code run the 'locale' command and include its output in the 'make' output. That way, the 'make' transcript would indicate this particular detail of the test environment.