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From: Bruno Haible <bruno@clisp.org>
To: bug-gnulib@gnu.org
Cc: "Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen" <marc.nieper+gnu@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Module suggestion: timeout
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:19:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1734109.oLkUVmKVoB@omega> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEYrNrToxH2y85z2Qmu1bbws6F4f4d-Vuv_CrBE0ZX6LPpoLTg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Marc,

Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen wrote:
> Gnulib contains a module named valgrind

More precisely, it's called 'valgrind-tests'. See
https://www.gnu.org/software/gnulib/manual/html_node/Using-valgrind-automatically.html

> that allows the easy use of
> Valgrind for tests whenever it is supported by the build system.
> 
> I would suggest to add a similar module named timeout that sets the
> variable TIMEOUT with suitable defaults whenever the GNU coreutils timeout
> program (or an equivalent) is available.
> 
> This would allow test runners to be unconditionally prefixed with
> $(TIMEOUT) so that on supporting systems, tests are killed (and an error is
> reported) whenever they run for too long (mostly because of a logic error
> causing an infinite loop).

The situations are a bit different:

1) For the timeout, there is a coding idiom that needs little code and works
also when the 'timeout' program is not present:

#if HAVE_DECL_ALARM
  /* Declare failure if test takes too long, by using default abort
     caused by SIGALRM.  */
  int alarm_value = 600;
  signal (SIGALRM, SIG_DFL);
  alarm (alarm_value);
#endif

2) For the timeout, different tests need different timeouts. Whereas valgrind
typically does not need per-program arguments.

3) If a way to enable a timeout exists, it is typically never useful to run a
unit test without a timeout. Whereas if valgrind is available, it is still
useful to run a unit test without valgrind:
  - the unit test runs much faster without valgrind,
  - the unit test might not be prepared to cope with the extra '==...' lines
    output to stderr.

So, I don't think the "let's treat timeout like valgrind" approach is going
to work. Instead, you need to design a way to deal with timeouts, independently.

Bruno



  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-29 14:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-29 12:22 Module suggestion Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
2021-04-29 14:19 ` Bruno Haible [this message]
2021-04-30  9:24   ` Module suggestion: timeout Simon Josefsson via Gnulib discussion list
2021-04-30  9:37     ` Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
2021-04-30  9:43       ` Simon Josefsson via Gnulib discussion list
2021-04-30  9:47         ` Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
2021-05-01 21:13     ` bug#48113: " Karl Berry
2021-05-02  7:30       ` Simon Josefsson via Gnulib discussion list

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