From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.7 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDECB1F55B for ; Tue, 19 May 2020 22:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:45604 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbAWd-0007kL-KV for normalperson@yhbt.net; Tue, 19 May 2020 18:15:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42922) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbAWT-0007gv-G9 for bug-gnulib@gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2020 18:15:41 -0400 Received: from mo6-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de ([2a01:238:20a:202:5300::9]:18090) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbAWR-0007Ee-8V for bug-gnulib@gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2020 18:15:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1589926533; s=strato-dkim-0002; d=clisp.org; h=References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Date:Subject:Cc:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH:From:Subject:Sender; bh=InsKnmgkgf8CRVFJXOwRWH0NnOmKLYF9ZRPfKFdovrg=; b=tf7nln/us1XdAT1AoXAiISLW3sk3xvIFjLzWF5Enk1Gq3AVFXTdB26pJHfPDWRFd2G c/mJwgHmgnazYOZqVGPsV/Ts7DhuaWSSXe4tSKbtjh2EV8PlliDkAqh5I4t56vmWw3iU s4w3FisKD4171Z80TVyyRrXw5B7rnXqmKOVWqe4tlt3U28mbZcsgEU6KhWPdRXNHI2aC bPRaqhYJpQ/RDEpGLVmyzU6ihcsKapWxt3md68CatR7ie9RWMxLimIlbGGzN/3x4dvF1 +iMgBnruQ53gitr3ds1KWhn42hSsLIE0S5KfMYGuKZrkQq6czobiL3JVzC7oAmJkvg2C SJPw== X-RZG-AUTH: ":Ln4Re0+Ic/6oZXR1YgKryK8brlshOcZlIWs+iCP5vnk6shH+AHjwLuWOH6fzxfs=" X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: from bruno.haible.de by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 46.7.0 DYNA|AUTH) with ESMTPSA id x0bd30w4JMFV1TP (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (curve X9_62_prime256v1 with 256 ECDH bits, eq. 3072 bits RSA)) (Client did not present a certificate); Wed, 20 May 2020 00:15:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Bruno Haible To: bug-gnulib@gnu.org Subject: Re: copyright in Germany Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 00:15:31 +0200 Message-ID: <122305602.73dpF6A0ll@omega> User-Agent: KMail/5.1.3 (Linux/4.4.0-177-generic; KDE/5.18.0; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Received-SPF: none client-ip=2a01:238:20a:202:5300::9; envelope-from=bruno@clisp.org; helo=mo6-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: bug-gnulib@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Gnulib discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Marc =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nieper=2DWi=DFkirchen?= , Tim =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=FChsen?= Errors-To: bug-gnulib-bounces+normalperson=yhbt.net@gnu.org Sender: "bug-gnulib" Marc Nieper-Wi=DFkirchen wrote: > > "copyright" here means more "Nutzungsrecht" which you can transfer also > > in Germany. You still stay the "Urheber". >=20 > If transferring the "Nutzungsrecht" is enough, everything should be fine. You need to verify, though, that no employer of yours has a legal basis for claiming the "Nutzungsrechte" on the code that you want to contribute. If the code you write is not related to your job, that is, if you are not being paid to write it, then the "Nutzungsrechte" belong to you - regardless whether your employment contract says otherwise. This is guaranteed by Art. 2.(1) Grundgesetz. (*) Often it is clear whether something is related to your job. For example, if you have a manager that tells you what to develop. (*) If your employer is a university [1], things are less clear. In the past, some universities have been strict and claimed that the works of their professors and researchers belong to them. This has changed somewhat around 2000-2005: The slogan "public money - public code" has convinced at least some universities to allow the code that came out of research projects to be released under Open Source licenses. In any case, this topic is subject to negotiation between the professors/researchers and the university. (*) Disclaimer: I got this infos from a lawyer. But I am not a lawyer. Cons= ult your own lawyer. Bruno [1] https://www.uni-augsburg.de/de/fakultaet/mntf/math/prof/alg/arbeitsgrup= pe/nieper-wisskirchen/