From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 74.125.0.0/16 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail-wm0-f51.google.com (mail-wm0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BF8E2018E for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 22:38:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-f51.google.com with SMTP id o80so39424129wme.1 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 15:38:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ScWxJdEeH7qMN4mjlZn6pQu4xyxe9OCLHE4AXfmBceQ=; b=iwwbd3vRN3RkTPpoUvIHd2j4eibLNPQG/NVpnGD2gEhr6E3dwIa+GnkRUGTJCh+aL/ fVcZpKIobwmq9fFe6m05pqap/fH/M3/8KI4j2C69Ha45nbxaCx09K02kR70beUo/Mv2z GOQ5pX8dwPIWz4lgqJ0zdqDIloANBK/Uk5DnFS+ZudxCD+B0nUCe6C8aQ6VFIqwkK7Pp cXOYY16uyrGPYbUsNFkdCTk0BFgAhdVr5CSKOdnlibIxtX9lP1AQayizTbpKHcBrYWJ6 OxgWS9DisAsmsV3GZhOFAfLaZse/D6GNZxQwiNdwAV8dJjom4xsF1CP2wljKJVW6LycM xZJQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ScWxJdEeH7qMN4mjlZn6pQu4xyxe9OCLHE4AXfmBceQ=; b=E4D6RqlqFysmUdqvVmQ9/1GcmSDV0sg5PWs0RBNOFQRKfwtcadDGhi7FbZCKVHuNon MmZX1vg3PKQxWqrN2DIRYhGCQu7ttkKhUXnyVCvbKOK4zymqWwlJaRAhe4FS4Hmi48uZ 8kt3MJJu0CTnRh0q7Yi2+/xRbCVF9teIUJYY7tQ1tWlxTgot21Xln9xL7lH9S0n7Lv7j CnargqLNNBhIf8rlzue9u7X8X4qbfVUgPkmhVL7e07wZBWzJdO8ZKjXsZ/ymx7pLmL0C jjD8ntusz+LWV1LJl2YHAtTXSEZrKYrlMdMMdESXSUDabyxLZYPE/DtbdXneIi4qtW19 3eSw== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwMWpU4qEuGgvOcvWeQmKw1RZksKI9XZ4TCavq5H9SlR8vAmtknrY0A7uCarNoPDZw== X-Received: by 10.28.109.197 with SMTP id b66mr4637732wmi.68.1472337513733; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 15:38:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.26] (enk96.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl. [83.20.0.96]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 142sm5683756wmh.12.2016.08.27.15.38.31 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 27 Aug 2016 15:38:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Working with public-inbox.org [Was: [PATCH] rev-parse: respect core.hooksPath in --git-path] To: Johannes Schindelin , Eric Wong References: <20160818204902.GA1670@starla> <20160819223547.GB16646@dcvr> <20160822225549.GA25383@starla> Cc: Stefan Beller , meta@public-inbox.org, git@vger.kernel.org From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jakub_Nar=c4=99bski?= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 00:38:25 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Id: W dniu 25.08.2016 o 14:58, Johannes Schindelin pisze: > On Mon, 22 Aug 2016, Eric Wong wrote: >> Johannes Schindelin wrote: >> >>> I just want developers who are already familiar with Git, and come up with >>> an improvement to Git itself, to be able to contribute it without having >>> to pull out their hair in despair. >> >> We want the same thing. I just want to go farther and get >> people familiar with (federated|decentralized) tools instead of >> proprietary and centralized ones. > > Why require users to get familiar with (federated|decentralized) tools > *unless* they make things provably more convenient? So far, I only see > that this would add to the hurdle, not improve things. Arguably for some federated/decentralized tools are preferred (for philosophical reasons), even if they do not achieve even feature parity with centralized tools (c.f. FSF). Though Git is not there to improve the world, just to be better... On the other hand some may say that centralized tools (such as GitHub and its pull requests) do not achieve feature parity with email based workflow... though the basics are here. Best regards, -- Jakub Narębski