From: Eric Wong <e@yhbt.net>
To: Varun Varada <varuncvarada@gmail.com>
Cc: meta@public-inbox.org
Subject: Re: [Patch] Update 24-hour times to use two digits for the hour
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 00:27:06 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200606002706.GA3999@dcvr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD2i4DBv5JJPKVOz4tvrzwbRBveGymGvS4u37Eida6wnSnMDJQ@mail.gmail.com>
Varun Varada <varuncvarada@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> The issue of being able to determine whether a reply was on a
> different day still arises with your method, as replies that occurred
> before 12:00 on the same day would have the same problem.
True, there's cases where reading the date column is necessary;
but being able to optimize some cases is better than optimizing
none.
> Either way,
> it is just as easy to see the changeover to the next day if it was a
> leading zero, as that indicates a reset of the clock, and it seems
> like quite a subjective preference.
Maybe it's subjective, but having to parse whether a character
is '0' is more effort for me than recognizing a space. My eyes
don't have to be in focus to recognize a space.
> Nevertheless, it seems like the trade-off of making users learn
> something once vs. repetitively is a false one, given that most people
> are already familiar with seeing times with leading zeroes as 24-hour
> times, and furthermore reading ISO 8601 formats in general. The idea
> of "teaching one thing" in order to make the "output intended for
> humans" ultimately easier to read seems to defeat its original
> purpose, since people would have to unlearn what they already learned
> every time they quickly glance through the output. I hope you'll
> reconsider.
Sorry, no, users need to learn UIs once.
Btw, please stop top-posting. IMHO, not quoting public emails
at all is acceptable if you don't feel like deciding which parts
to quote.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-06-06 0:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-06-05 20:22 [Patch] Update 24-hour times to use two digits for the hour Varun Varada
2020-06-05 22:03 ` Eric Wong
2020-06-05 22:48 ` Varun Varada
2020-06-05 23:27 ` Eric Wong
2020-06-06 0:11 ` Varun Varada
2020-06-06 0:27 ` Eric Wong [this message]
2020-06-06 21:27 ` Dmitry Alexandrov
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