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* [PATCH] nntp: regexp always consumes rbuf if "\n" exists
@ 2019-09-08 10:45 Eric Wong
  2019-09-08 10:52 ` trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd Eric Wong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Eric Wong @ 2019-09-08 10:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: meta

We don't want to get hung into a state where we see "\n" via
index(), yet cannot consume rbuf in the while loop.  So tweak
the regexp to ensure we always consume rbuf.

I suspect this is what causes occasional 100% CPU usage of
-nntpd, but reproducing it's been difficult..
---
 lib/PublicInbox/NNTP.pm | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/lib/PublicInbox/NNTP.pm b/lib/PublicInbox/NNTP.pm
index 41f1e9c..c049685 100644
--- a/lib/PublicInbox/NNTP.pm
+++ b/lib/PublicInbox/NNTP.pm
@@ -995,7 +995,7 @@ sub event_step {
 		my $off = bytes::length($$rbuf);
 		$r = $self->do_read($rbuf, LINE_MAX, $off) or return;
 	}
-	while ($r > 0 && $$rbuf =~ s/\A[ \t\r\n]*([^\r\n]*)\r?\n//) {
+	while ($r > 0 && $$rbuf =~ s/\A[ \t]*([^\n]*?)\r?\n//) {
 		my $line = $1;
 		return $self->close if $line =~ /[[:cntrl:]]/s;
 		my $t0 = now();
-- 
EW


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* trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...
  2019-09-08 10:45 [PATCH] nntp: regexp always consumes rbuf if "\n" exists Eric Wong
@ 2019-09-08 10:52 ` Eric Wong
  2019-09-09 10:05   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Eric Wong @ 2019-09-08 10:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: meta

I've been having trouble reproducing this bug (but maybe summer
weather has been taking its toll, certainly has on my HW).

And it won't pin the process to any client, so other clients
continue to be served while it happens. It'll just end up being
a bunch of epoll_wait( ... timeout=0) calls (and no other
syscalls) which can drive up power bills :<

So this doesn't show up with .onion instances since those only
see connections from tor running on localhost; either.  The
problem only happens on news.public-inbox.org, so it could have
something to do with less-reliable clients triggering our
long_response code path.

While debugging this, I've isolated it to the last ->requeue
call in NNTP.pm event_step by using write(2) syscalls to
/dev/null so I can strace things as-needed.

Showing "git diff -w" output so the entire old event_step sub is
shown.  The problem is somehow, $$rbuf has "\n" in it, so
there's no do_read call happening.  Yet the while loop regexp
is never consuming $$rbuf...

So I'm pretty sure the old regexp is bogus, and the patch:
"nntp: regexp always consumes rbuf if "\n" exists"
will fix things.

diff --git a/lib/PublicInbox/NNTP.pm b/lib/PublicInbox/NNTP.pm
index 7c3f68a..ef050b9 100644
--- a/lib/PublicInbox/NNTP.pm
+++ b/lib/PublicInbox/NNTP.pm
@@ -976,44 +976,54 @@ sub err ($$;@) {
 sub out ($$;@) {
 	my ($self, $fmt, @args) = @_;
 	printf { $self->{nntpd}->{out} } $fmt."\n", @args;
 }
 
+use Data::Dumper;
+my $null;
+BEGIN {
+	open $null, '>>', '/dev/null' or die;
+	$null->autoflush(1);
+};
+
 # callback used by PublicInbox::DS for any (e)poll (in/out/hup/err)
 sub event_step {
 	my ($self) = @_;
 
 	return unless $self->flush_write && $self->{sock};
 
 	update_idle_time($self);
 	# only read more requests if we've drained the write buffer,
 	# otherwise we can be buffering infinitely w/o backpressure
 
 	my $rbuf = $self->{rbuf} // (\(my $x = ''));
 	my $r = 1;
 
 	if (index($$rbuf, "\n") < 0) {
 		my $off = bytes::length($$rbuf);
 		$r = $self->do_read($rbuf, LINE_MAX, $off) or return;
 	}
 	while ($r > 0 && $$rbuf =~ s/\A[ \t\r\n]*([^\r\n]*)\r?\n//) {
 		my $line = $1;
 		return $self->close if $line =~ /[[:cntrl:]]/s;
 		my $t0 = now();
 		my $fd = fileno($self->{sock});
 		$r = eval { process_line($self, $line) };
 		my $pending = $self->{wbuf} ? ' pending' : '';
 		out($self, "[$fd] %s - %0.6f$pending", $line, now() - $t0);
 	}
 
 	return $self->close if $r < 0;
 	my $len = bytes::length($$rbuf);
 	return $self->close if ($len >= LINE_MAX);
 	$self->rbuf_idle($rbuf);
 	update_idle_time($self);
 
 	# maybe there's more pipelined data, or we'll have
 	# to register it for socket-readiness notifications
-	$self->requeue unless $self->{wbuf};
+	unless ($self->{wbuf}) {
+		print $null Dumper({r=>$r, rbuf=>$rbuf});
+		$self->requeue;
+	}
 }
 
 sub not_idle_long ($$) {

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* Re: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...
  2019-09-08 10:52 ` trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd Eric Wong
@ 2019-09-09 10:05   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
  2019-09-09 17:53     ` Eric Wong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Konstantin Ryabitsev @ 2019-09-09 10:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Wong; +Cc: meta

On Sun, Sep 08, 2019 at 10:52:43AM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> I've been having trouble reproducing this bug (but maybe summer
> weather has been taking its toll, certainly has on my HW).

I did notice the same thing after updating to what was the latest master
last week -- the nntpd process was always 100% or above load in htop. I
just applied the latest updates, so we'll see if there is any change.

There also was a weird problem a couple of days ago where one of the
httpd daemons started returning "Internal Server Error" to all requests.
Restarting public-inbox-httpd fixed the problem, but I am not sure how I
would troubleshoot the causes if it happens next time -- is there a way
to enable error logging for the httpd daemon?

-K


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread

* Re: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...
  2019-09-09 10:05   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
@ 2019-09-09 17:53     ` Eric Wong
  2019-09-10  8:38       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Eric Wong @ 2019-09-09 17:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Konstantin Ryabitsev; +Cc: meta

Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> There also was a weird problem a couple of days ago where one of the
> httpd daemons started returning "Internal Server Error" to all requests.
> Restarting public-inbox-httpd fixed the problem, but I am not sure how I
> would troubleshoot the causes if it happens next time -- is there a way
> to enable error logging for the httpd daemon?

That's a new one... I haven't seen any problems from -httpd myself
in ages.  So -httpd could not handle requests at all?

The daemons already spits errors to stderr which typically ends up
in syslog via systemd.  So, that's the first place to look
(also "systemctl status $SERVICE"); anything in there?

I can usually figure everything out from strace/lsof on a worker
process and hitting it with some requests (SIGTTOU to decrement
workers down to one).

That said, out-of-FD/memory conditions might not always be
logged correctly to stderr and we need to fix that.  Also, right
now the code considers git-cat-file to be reliable, but I guess
it wouldn't be the case in disk failures and perhaps timeouts
will be necessary.

Maybe nginx/varnish logs would have something, too; but
more likely syslog.


Also, would be curious how memory usage improves for you with
some of the new changes.  I don't think I've exceeded 100MB/worker
this year, but Email::MIME can be a pig with giant messages.

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* Re: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...
  2019-09-09 17:53     ` Eric Wong
@ 2019-09-10  8:38       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
  2019-09-10 18:12         ` Eric Wong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Konstantin Ryabitsev @ 2019-09-10  8:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Wong; +Cc: meta

On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 05:53:41PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > There also was a weird problem a couple of days ago where one of the
> > httpd daemons started returning "Internal Server Error" to all requests.
> > Restarting public-inbox-httpd fixed the problem, but I am not sure how I
> > would troubleshoot the causes if it happens next time -- is there a way
> > to enable error logging for the httpd daemon?
> 
> That's a new one... I haven't seen any problems from -httpd myself
> in ages.  So -httpd could not handle requests at all?
> 
> The daemons already spits errors to stderr which typically ends up
> in syslog via systemd.  So, that's the first place to look
> (also "systemctl status $SERVICE"); anything in there?

Bah, I hadn't even considered looking in syslog. I blame jet lag. Well,
the explanation is simple, then:

Sep  7 22:22:35 lore.kernel.org public-inbox-httpd: pipe failed: Too many open files at /usr/local/share/perl5/PublicInbox/Git.pm line 210.
Sep  7 22:22:36 lore.kernel.org public-inbox-httpd: pipe: Too many open files
Sep  7 22:23:01 lore.kernel.org public-inbox-httpd: pipe: Too many open files
Sep  7 22:23:02 lore.kernel.org public-inbox-httpd: pipe: Too many open files
Sep  7 22:23:02 lore.kernel.org public-inbox-httpd: pipe: Too many open files

I see that there's already a LimitNOFILE=30000 -- is exhausting 30,000
open files a reasonable sort of thing for a system as busy as
lore.kernel.org, or should we look for a leak. Currently:

publici+ 13125     1  0 52297 25096   0 Sep09 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/local/bin/public-inbox-httpd -W4 -1 /var/log/public-inbox/httpd.out.log
publici+ 13128 13125  1 200056 591376 4 Sep09 ?        00:21:06 /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/local/bin/public-inbox-httpd -W4 -1 /var/log/public-inbox/httpd.out.log
publici+ 13129 13125  1 117789 262000 2 Sep09 ?        00:16:09 /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/local/bin/public-inbox-httpd -W4 -1 /var/log/public-inbox/httpd.out.log
publici+ 13130 13125  0 103569 204772 9 Sep09 ?        00:08:06 /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/local/bin/public-inbox-httpd -W4 -1 /var/log/public-inbox/httpd.out.log
publici+ 13131 13125  0 101510 199268 1 Sep09 ?        00:03:33 /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/local/bin/public-inbox-httpd -W4 -1 /var/log/public-inbox/httpd.out.log

# ls /proc/13125/fd/ | wc -l
9
# ls /proc/13128/fd/ | wc -l
17776
# ls /proc/13129/fd/ | wc -l
3937
# ls /proc/13130/fd/ | wc -l
648
# ls /proc/13131/fd/ | wc -l
68

17776 since Sep 09 seems... fairly excessive. Most of them are pipes:

# lsof -p 13128 | grep pipe | wc -l
14741

a bunch of them are to (deleted) entries in /tmp:

# lsof -p 13128 | grep deleted | wc -l
3015

(e.g.):

public-in 13128 publicinbox   45u      REG              259,4        984   4200094 /tmp/PerlIO_yd43mN (deleted)
public-in 13128 publicinbox   46r     FIFO                0,9        0t0  21818751 pipe
public-in 13128 publicinbox   47u      REG              259,4        984   4200096 /tmp/PerlIO_siY3Pb (deleted)
public-in 13128 publicinbox   48r     FIFO                0,9        0t0  21818758 pipe
public-in 13128 publicinbox   49u      REG              259,4        984   4200100 /tmp/PerlIO_WyIaaC (deleted)

It does seem like there's perhaps a leak somewhere?

-K

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* Re: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...
  2019-09-10  8:38       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
@ 2019-09-10 18:12         ` Eric Wong
  2019-09-11  2:22           ` httpd 502s [was: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...] Eric Wong
  2019-09-11  9:44           ` trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd Konstantin Ryabitsev
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Eric Wong @ 2019-09-10 18:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Konstantin Ryabitsev; +Cc: meta

Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 05:53:41PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> > Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > > There also was a weird problem a couple of days ago where one of the
> > > httpd daemons started returning "Internal Server Error" to all requests.
> > > Restarting public-inbox-httpd fixed the problem, but I am not sure how I
> > > would troubleshoot the causes if it happens next time -- is there a way
> > > to enable error logging for the httpd daemon?
> > 
> > That's a new one... I haven't seen any problems from -httpd myself
> > in ages.  So -httpd could not handle requests at all?
> > 
> > The daemons already spits errors to stderr which typically ends up
> > in syslog via systemd.  So, that's the first place to look
> > (also "systemctl status $SERVICE"); anything in there?
> 
> Bah, I hadn't even considered looking in syslog. I blame jet lag. Well,
> the explanation is simple, then:
> 
> Sep  7 22:22:35 lore.kernel.org public-inbox-httpd: pipe failed: Too many open files at /usr/local/share/perl5/PublicInbox/Git.pm line 210.
> Sep  7 22:22:36 lore.kernel.org public-inbox-httpd: pipe: Too many open files
> Sep  7 22:23:01 lore.kernel.org public-inbox-httpd: pipe: Too many open files
> Sep  7 22:23:02 lore.kernel.org public-inbox-httpd: pipe: Too many open files
> Sep  7 22:23:02 lore.kernel.org public-inbox-httpd: pipe: Too many open files
> 
> I see that there's already a LimitNOFILE=30000 -- is exhausting 30,000
> open files a reasonable sort of thing for a system as busy as
> lore.kernel.org, or should we look for a leak. Currently:
> 
> publici+ 13125     1  0 52297 25096   0 Sep09 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/local/bin/public-inbox-httpd -W4 -1 /var/log/public-inbox/httpd.out.log
> publici+ 13128 13125  1 200056 591376 4 Sep09 ?        00:21:06 /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/local/bin/public-inbox-httpd -W4 -1 /var/log/public-inbox/httpd.out.log
> publici+ 13129 13125  1 117789 262000 2 Sep09 ?        00:16:09 /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/local/bin/public-inbox-httpd -W4 -1 /var/log/public-inbox/httpd.out.log
> publici+ 13130 13125  0 103569 204772 9 Sep09 ?        00:08:06 /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/local/bin/public-inbox-httpd -W4 -1 /var/log/public-inbox/httpd.out.log
> publici+ 13131 13125  0 101510 199268 1 Sep09 ?        00:03:33 /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/local/bin/public-inbox-httpd -W4 -1 /var/log/public-inbox/httpd.out.log

Overall limit of open files could be higher (just limited by
RAM) but the balance of pipes/unlinked/other (sockets) seems way off.

I wonder if it's some bad interaction with hitting
pipe-user-pages-soft (see bottom), too...

> # ls /proc/13125/fd/ | wc -l
> 9
> # ls /proc/13128/fd/ | wc -l
> 17776
> # ls /proc/13129/fd/ | wc -l
> 3937
> # ls /proc/13130/fd/ | wc -l
> 648
> # ls /proc/13131/fd/ | wc -l
> 68

OK, there is correlation between CPU time and open FDs.

The poor load distribution (based on CPU time) between processes
sucks, but that's an unrelated problem[1]

> 17776 since Sep 09 seems... fairly excessive. Most of them are pipes:
> 
> # lsof -p 13128 | grep pipe | wc -l
> 14741
> 
> a bunch of them are to (deleted) entries in /tmp:
> 
> # lsof -p 13128 | grep deleted | wc -l
> 3015
> 
> (e.g.):
> 
> public-in 13128 publicinbox   45u      REG              259,4        984   4200094 /tmp/PerlIO_yd43mN (deleted)
> public-in 13128 publicinbox   46r     FIFO                0,9        0t0  21818751 pipe
> public-in 13128 publicinbox   47u      REG              259,4        984   4200096 /tmp/PerlIO_siY3Pb (deleted)
> public-in 13128 publicinbox   48r     FIFO                0,9        0t0  21818758 pipe
> public-in 13128 publicinbox   49u      REG              259,4        984   4200100 /tmp/PerlIO_WyIaaC (deleted)
> 
> It does seem like there's perhaps a leak somewhere?

Probably.  Not seeing any of that on my (smaller) instances;
but those -httpd haven't been restarted in weeks/months.

The "PerlIO_" prefix is created from open(..., '+>', undef), so
it either has to be for:

1. POST bodies for git http-backend

1. git cat-file --batch-check stderr

3. experimental ViewVCS|SolverGit which isn't configured on lore :)

= git-http-backend

Looking at the size (984), PerlIO_* prefix and proximity of FD
numbers, I think those lines above are git-http-backend POST body.

Any git-http-backend stuck from people fetching/cloning?

If so, fd=0 of those should correspond to the inodes of those
unlinked PerlIO files.

This is -httpd writing to varnish, still, right?
Anything from varnish error logs?

3K git-http-backend is a lot, the Qspawn mechanism
limits it to 32 processes by default (same as git-daemon),
so it shouldn't hit RLIMIT_NOPROC.  Qspawn also won't create
the pipe until right before spawning git-http-backend.

The unlinked file is created once the POST request hits.

And 3K git-http-backend would only be a 1:1 ratio of pipes to
unlinked files, though, so that's over 10K pipes still
unaccounted for...


= git cat-file

There can be two cat-file processes (--batch and --batch-check)
for every inbox in every -httpd worker.

Every cat-file process uses 2 pipes (public-inbox closes the
ends it hands to git), and there's --batch-check ones which use
an additional unlinked regular file for stderr.

So: 80 inboxes * 2 cat-file * 2 pipes is only 320 pipes in -httpd

And not sure if 160 cat-file processes would cause RLIMIT_NPROC
problems, probably not...

Fwiw, while the new DS code also uses temporary files for output
buffering, those have the "wbuf-" prefix and not PerlIO_* since
'open(FH, "+>>", undef)' didn't work until recently:
https://rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=134221


I've been meaning to expand dtas-graph to include
temporary file and socket connectivity, too, but it's pretty
useful at graphing pipe connectivity between processes:
https://80x24.org/dtas-all/b243086/s/?b=perl/dtas-graph
And it can help find unconnected pipes.


= /proc/sys/fs/pipe-user-pages-soft

I also just remembered this knob, which you could hit from just
cat-file, and I seem to remember some bugs in older kernels when
pipe limits are hit.

for httpd with 80 inboxes:
160 pipes * 4 workers * 16 pages = 10240 pages for --batch
160 pipes * 4 workers * 1 pages = 640 pages for --batch-check

That's already 10880 pages for cat-file alone despite only
F_SETPIPE_SZ-ing to a single page for batch-check (default is 16
pages for 65536 bytes).

And there's still pipes for nntpd (not sure how many workers
there), and various internal self-pipe stuff (single-page), some
of which can be made eventfd...

/proc/sys/fs/pipe-user-pages-soft seems to default to 16384
regardless of system RAM, and I've needed to increase it in other
places for different projects.

For anybody using SQLite, I could see about supporting a single
cat-file process in a repo where every inbox is an alternate of
a main one...

[1] maybe a multiaccept knob can improve load distribution:
    https://public-inbox.org/meta/20190513025610.30378-1-e@80x24.org/

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* httpd 502s [was: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...]
  2019-09-10 18:12         ` Eric Wong
@ 2019-09-11  2:22           ` Eric Wong
  2019-09-11 10:24             ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
  2019-09-11  9:44           ` trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd Konstantin Ryabitsev
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Eric Wong @ 2019-09-11  2:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Konstantin Ryabitsev; +Cc: meta

Btw, some of the changes in public-inbox to use EPOLLET /
EPOLLONESHOT would make it more sensitive to kernel bugs,
and missed wakeups could cause resource exhaustion...

I just noticed this now:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20190904175303.918854334@linuxfoundation.org/

And I remember I found another mm-compaction-related issue
several years back (early 3.x) which caused epoll wakeups to be
missed...

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* Re: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...
  2019-09-10 18:12         ` Eric Wong
  2019-09-11  2:22           ` httpd 502s [was: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...] Eric Wong
@ 2019-09-11  9:44           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
  2019-09-11 17:12             ` Eric Wong
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Konstantin Ryabitsev @ 2019-09-11  9:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Wong; +Cc: meta

On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 06:12:24PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> > It does seem like there's perhaps a leak somewhere?
> 
> Probably.  Not seeing any of that on my (smaller) instances;
> but those -httpd haven't been restarted in weeks/months.
> 
> The "PerlIO_" prefix is created from open(..., '+>', undef), so
> it either has to be for:
> 
> 1. POST bodies for git http-backend
> 
> 1. git cat-file --batch-check stderr
> 
> 3. experimental ViewVCS|SolverGit which isn't configured on lore :)
> 
> = git-http-backend
> 
> Looking at the size (984), PerlIO_* prefix and proximity of FD
> numbers, I think those lines above are git-http-backend POST body.

Pretty sure that's the culprit. This is how we replicate between
lore.kernel.org to erol.kernel.org:

- once a minute, two nodes that are behind erol.kernel.org grab the
  newest manifest.js.gz
- if there are changes, each updated repository is pulled from
  lore.kernel.org, so if there were 5 repository updates, there would be
  10 "git pull" requests

I switched the replication nodes to pull once every 5 minutes instead of
once every minute and I see a direct correlation between when those
processes run and the number of broken pipes and "/tmp/PerlIO_*
(deleted)" processes showing up and hanging around. Not every run
produces these, but increase spikes come in roughly 5-minute intervals.
On the first run after public-inbox-httpd restart, the correlation is
direct:

this is from one of the mirroring nodes:

[82807] 2019-09-11 09:30:02,044 - INFO - Updating 18 repos from https://lore.kernel.org

this is on lore.kernel.org after the run is completed:

# ls -al /proc/{16212,16213,16214,16215}/fd | grep deleted | wc -l
36

> Any git-http-backend stuck from people fetching/cloning?

No, all git processes seem to exit cleanly on both ends.

> This is -httpd writing to varnish, still, right?

We bypass varnish for git requests, since this is not generally useful.
Nginx goes straight to public-inbox-httpd for those.

I did run some updates on lore.kernel.org on Thursday, including kernel
(3.10.0-957.27.2), nginx (1.16.1) and public-inbox updates. For the
latter, it went from f4f0a3be to what was latest master at the time
(d327141c).

Hope this helps, and thanks for your help!

-K

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* Re: httpd 502s [was: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...]
  2019-09-11  2:22           ` httpd 502s [was: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...] Eric Wong
@ 2019-09-11 10:24             ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
  2019-09-11 17:12               ` Eric Wong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Konstantin Ryabitsev @ 2019-09-11 10:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Wong; +Cc: meta

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 02:22:15AM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> Btw, some of the changes in public-inbox to use EPOLLET /
> EPOLLONESHOT would make it more sensitive to kernel bugs,
> and missed wakeups could cause resource exhaustion...
> 
> I just noticed this now:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20190904175303.918854334@linuxfoundation.org/
> 
> And I remember I found another mm-compaction-related issue
> several years back (early 3.x) which caused epoll wakeups to be
> missed...

To give some more data points, downgrading to f4f0a3be still shows a
number of /tmp/PerlIO* (deleted) entries, but the number of pipes stays
the same over time. If I switch to the latest master, the number of
broken pipes grows steadily following each git pull (in the hundreds
after 10 minutes of running).

I've downgraded lore.kernel.org to f4f0a3be for now to avoid the
resource exhaustion.

-K

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* Re: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...
  2019-09-11  9:44           ` trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd Konstantin Ryabitsev
@ 2019-09-11 17:12             ` Eric Wong
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Eric Wong @ 2019-09-11 17:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Konstantin Ryabitsev; +Cc: meta

Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 06:12:24PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> > Any git-http-backend stuck from people fetching/cloning?
> 
> No, all git processes seem to exit cleanly on both ends.
> 
> > This is -httpd writing to varnish, still, right?
> 
> We bypass varnish for git requests, since this is not generally useful.
> Nginx goes straight to public-inbox-httpd for those.
> 
> I did run some updates on lore.kernel.org on Thursday, including kernel
> (3.10.0-957.27.2), nginx (1.16.1) and public-inbox updates. For the
> latter, it went from f4f0a3be to what was latest master at the time
> (d327141c).

I also noticed "tcp: remove empty skb from write queue in error cases"
(64a2a93ba3856d16765e5c8a00c133fa8750879a) which is likely to affect
public-inbox using edge-triggered epoll.  Not sure if
Linux 3.10.0-957.27.2 has that backported...

Also, what nginx buffer settings are you using?  In particular,
is proxy_buffering off or on?  Also, does that version of nginx
do persistent connections to backends (and if so, is it enabled)?

It doesn't seem pipe-user-pages related, but what I wrote could
definitely be a problem in the future with the number if inboxes
you have and I should be able to mitigate that by alternates
and sharing a cat-file process.

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* Re: httpd 502s [was: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...]
  2019-09-11 10:24             ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
@ 2019-09-11 17:12               ` Eric Wong
  2019-09-11 17:36                 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Eric Wong @ 2019-09-11 17:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Konstantin Ryabitsev; +Cc: meta

Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> To give some more data points, downgrading to f4f0a3be still shows a
> number of /tmp/PerlIO* (deleted) entries, but the number of pipes stays
> the same over time. If I switch to the latest master, the number of
> broken pipes grows steadily following each git pull (in the hundreds
> after 10 minutes of running).

Thanks for that info, did those deleted entries eventually go
away (perhaps after several minutes)?

Kinda difficult to tie those to the corresponding TCP connection
atm, though.  I should probably put the TCP socket inode number
into the pre-unlink tempfile name to make that relationship
traceable.

> I've downgraded lore.kernel.org to f4f0a3be for now to avoid the
> resource exhaustion.

I'll try to reproduce it later today or this week.

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* Re: httpd 502s [was: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...]
  2019-09-11 17:12               ` Eric Wong
@ 2019-09-11 17:36                 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
  2019-09-12  0:05                   ` Eric Wong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Konstantin Ryabitsev @ 2019-09-11 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Wong; +Cc: meta

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 05:12:50PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > To give some more data points, downgrading to f4f0a3be still shows a
> > number of /tmp/PerlIO* (deleted) entries, but the number of pipes stays
> > the same over time. If I switch to the latest master, the number of
> > broken pipes grows steadily following each git pull (in the hundreds
> > after 10 minutes of running).
> 
> Thanks for that info, did those deleted entries eventually go
> away (perhaps after several minutes)?

They don't appear to go away -- since 10:23 UTC earlier today, they
accumulated over 2,400 entries:

# ls -al /proc/{2103,2104,2105,2106}/fd | grep deleted | wc -l
2427
# ls -al /proc/{2103,2104,2105,2106}/fd | grep pipe | wc -l
26

Curiously, I also have this datapoint that may or may not be making
things more confusing. :)

# ls -al /proc/{2103,2104,2105,2106}/fd | grep deleted | awk '{print $8}' | sort | uniq -c
    695 10:24
    356 10:27
    843 14:45
    175 14:46
      6 14:50
    372 17:19
      4 17:20
     11 17:23

So, they appear to show up in chunks and hang around together.

For nginx configs, this is the relevant part:

server {
  listen *:80 default_server;

  proxy_buffering off;

  location ~ ^(.*/(HEAD|info/refs|objects/info/[^/]+|git-(upload|receive)-pack))$ {

    proxy_pass            http://localhost:8080;
    proxy_read_timeout    90;
    proxy_connect_timeout 90;
    proxy_redirect        off;

    proxy_set_header      Host $host;
    proxy_set_header      X-Real-IP $remote_addr;
    proxy_set_header      X-Forwarded-For $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for;
    proxy_set_header      X-Forwarded-Proto $http_x_forwarded_proto;
    proxy_set_header      X-Forwarded-Port $server_port;

  }
}

When setting up lore, I also considered serving git via git-http-backend
instead of passing it via public-inbox-httpd -- the only reason we
didn't try that was because it complicated SELinux bits a bit. Can you
think of a reason why we shouldn't server git requests directly via
git-http-backend?

Thanks for your help.

-K

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* Re: httpd 502s [was: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...]
  2019-09-11 17:36                 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
@ 2019-09-12  0:05                   ` Eric Wong
  2019-09-12  2:49                     ` Eric Wong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Eric Wong @ 2019-09-12  0:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Konstantin Ryabitsev; +Cc: meta

Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 05:12:50PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> > Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > > To give some more data points, downgrading to f4f0a3be still shows a
> > > number of /tmp/PerlIO* (deleted) entries, but the number of pipes stays
> > > the same over time. If I switch to the latest master, the number of
> > > broken pipes grows steadily following each git pull (in the hundreds
> > > after 10 minutes of running).
> > 
> > Thanks for that info, did those deleted entries eventually go
> > away (perhaps after several minutes)?
> 
> They don't appear to go away -- since 10:23 UTC earlier today, they
> accumulated over 2,400 entries:
> 
> # ls -al /proc/{2103,2104,2105,2106}/fd | grep deleted | wc -l
> 2427
> # ls -al /proc/{2103,2104,2105,2106}/fd | grep pipe | wc -l
> 26
> 
> Curiously, I also have this datapoint that may or may not be making
> things more confusing. :)
> 
> # ls -al /proc/{2103,2104,2105,2106}/fd | grep deleted | awk '{print $8}' | sort | uniq -c
>     695 10:24
>     356 10:27
>     843 14:45
>     175 14:46
>       6 14:50
>     372 17:19
>       4 17:20
>      11 17:23
> 
> So, they appear to show up in chunks and hang around together.

Any other cronjobs or events which may fire around then?

Anything in nginx error logs?

I've never seen anything like this.  It should not matter as
HTTP should be HTTP; but I've always had -httpd talking to varnish
(mainly out of laziness, but I've never used nginx with
public-inbox myself, but also ease of documentation since
the varnish-4.vcl example teaches Varnish to only cache GET and
HEAD requests).

> When setting up lore, I also considered serving git via git-http-backend
> instead of passing it via public-inbox-httpd -- the only reason we
> didn't try that was because it complicated SELinux bits a bit. Can you
> think of a reason why we shouldn't server git requests directly via
> git-http-backend?

I didn't realize nginx added the ability to spawn CGI processes,
(but I haven't really looked at nginx this decade).

public-inbox-httpd has the qspawn/limiter stuff and the same
32-process default limit as git-daemon.  I actually limit it to
1-2 processes depending on the size of inbox given the tiny VPS
which powers public-inbox.org.  It's all documented in the -config
manpage ("NAMED LIMITER"/"httpbackendmax").  My favorite feature
is being able to configure different inboxes for different queues,
so clone requests for large inboxes won't starve requests to
small inboxes.

My goal is to allow -httpd to do HTTPS and proxy to varnish
soonish (eliminating the need for nginx or similar),
and eventually eliminate the need for varnish entirely.

> Thanks for your help.

No problem; thanks for the extra info.  Will try to finish my
current (non-public) tasks so I can dig into this ASAP.

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* Re: httpd 502s [was: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...]
  2019-09-12  0:05                   ` Eric Wong
@ 2019-09-12  2:49                     ` Eric Wong
  2019-09-12  8:35                       ` Eric Wong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Eric Wong @ 2019-09-12  2:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Konstantin Ryabitsev; +Cc: meta

One more thing, are you running any extra middlewares in the
.psgi file?  Thanks.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread

* Re: httpd 502s [was: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...]
  2019-09-12  2:49                     ` Eric Wong
@ 2019-09-12  8:35                       ` Eric Wong
  2019-09-12 11:37                         ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Eric Wong @ 2019-09-12  8:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Konstantin Ryabitsev; +Cc: meta

Eric Wong <e@80x24.org> wrote:
> One more thing, are you running any extra middlewares in the
> .psgi file?  Thanks.

That's probably not it, I suspected the non-fileno path was
being hit, but I just tested a debug change on top of
b7cfd5aeff4b6b316b61b327af9c144776d77225 (branch: "unlink")
("tmpfile: support O_APPEND and use it in DS::tmpio")
to fake the presence of a middleware wrapping psgi.input.



I've also pushed out an "unlink-fix" branch on top of
f4f0a3be0864721d90f9557ffe1c513b0289a74b which only
features one bugfix which wouldn't affect you, as well
as the tmpfile change to give more meanigful names:

      solvergit: ensure Qspawn usage doesn't unref update-index stdin
      tmpfile: give temporary files meaningful names

Note: if reusing existing working tree, be sure to rerun
"perl Makefile.PL" since new .pm files won't get picked up,
otherwise.

# force creation of extra temporary file for psgi.input
# in case some middleware overrides the psgi.input we
# set in HTTP.pm:
--------8<------
diff --git a/lib/PublicInbox/GitHTTPBackend.pm b/lib/PublicInbox/GitHTTPBackend.pm
index a8337035..2eaf221e 100644
--- a/lib/PublicInbox/GitHTTPBackend.pm
+++ b/lib/PublicInbox/GitHTTPBackend.pm
@@ -216,7 +216,7 @@ sub input_prepare {
 
 	my $input = $env->{'psgi.input'};
 	my $fd = eval { fileno($input) };
-	if (defined $fd && $fd >= 0) {
+	if (0 && defined $fd && $fd >= 0) {
 		return { 0 => $fd };
 	}
 	my $id = "git-http.input.$env->{REMOTE_HOST}:$env->{REMOTE_PORT}";

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* Re: httpd 502s [was: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...]
  2019-09-12  8:35                       ` Eric Wong
@ 2019-09-12 11:37                         ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
  2019-09-13  3:12                           ` Eric Wong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Konstantin Ryabitsev @ 2019-09-12 11:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Wong; +Cc: meta

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 08:35:03AM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> Eric Wong <e@80x24.org> wrote:
> > One more thing, are you running any extra middlewares in the
> > .psgi file?  Thanks.

No, it's just vanilla what comes with the source.

> That's probably not it, I suspected the non-fileno path was
> being hit, but I just tested a debug change on top of
> b7cfd5aeff4b6b316b61b327af9c144776d77225 (branch: "unlink")
> ("tmpfile: support O_APPEND and use it in DS::tmpio")
> to fake the presence of a middleware wrapping psgi.input.

I sent you a dump of lsof -p of all 4 processes after about 20 minutes
of running. For another data point, the daemon was running in
SELinux-permissive mode, to make sure unlinks aren't failing because of
any permission errors.

Let me know if you would like any further info.

Best,
-K

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread

* Re: httpd 502s [was: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...]
  2019-09-12 11:37                         ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
@ 2019-09-13  3:12                           ` Eric Wong
  2019-09-13  7:03                             ` Eric Wong
                                               ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Eric Wong @ 2019-09-13  3:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Konstantin Ryabitsev; +Cc: meta

Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 08:35:03AM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> > Eric Wong <e@80x24.org> wrote:
> > > One more thing, are you running any extra middlewares in the
> > > .psgi file?  Thanks.
> 
> No, it's just vanilla what comes with the source.

OK, and Perl 5.16.3 from CentOS 7?  (4:5.16.3-294.el7_6 RPM)

> > That's probably not it, I suspected the non-fileno path was
> > being hit, but I just tested a debug change on top of
> > b7cfd5aeff4b6b316b61b327af9c144776d77225 (branch: "unlink")
> > ("tmpfile: support O_APPEND and use it in DS::tmpio")
> > to fake the presence of a middleware wrapping psgi.input.
> 
> I sent you a dump of lsof -p of all 4 processes after about 20 minutes
> of running. For another data point, the daemon was running in
> SELinux-permissive mode, to make sure unlinks aren't failing because of
> any permission errors.

It looks like there's a Perl reference leak (cycle) of some
sort holding on to FDs, since you have lots of input files and
pipes, yet only one established IPv4 connection.  And the inodes
encoded into the filenames don't point to the connected socket,
even....

However, I'm not able to reproduce it on my CentOS 7 VM which
has nginx 1.12.2.  I don't think nginx is a factor in this
since public-inbox-httpd is clearly not holding TCP sockets
open, even.

Not at all familiar with SELinux, but I'm just using the
defaults CentOS comes with and running both nginx +
public-inbox-httpd as a regular user.

That "if (0..." GitHTTPBackend patch definitely isn't needed
for testing anymore and only makes FD exhaustion happen sooner.

> Let me know if you would like any further info.

If there's a reference leak somewhere, this could also be part
of the high memory use you showed us a few months ago.  Dunno
if you had many FDs back then.

I could see about adding explicit close() calls in a few
places, but that would make a corresponding memory leak
harder-to-notice, even.

I pushed out two patches to the "unlink" branch which may be
able to reproduce the issue on your end (I see nothing out of
the ordinary on my slow CentOS 7 VM or Debian machines/VMs)

* [PATCH] t/httpd-corner: check for leaking FDs and pipes
* [RFC] t/git-http-backend: add MANY_CLONE test

# no pipes should be present in -httpd with -W0
prove -lv t/httpd-corner.t

# unrelated note: there's 4 pipes from -W1 (the default),
# but I think 2 can be closed, actually...
GIANT_GIT_DIR=/path/to/git.git MANY_CLONE=1 prove -lv t/git-http-backend.t

If those updated test cases can't reproduce the problem,
can you reproduce this on erol or any other machines?
perhaps with a different Perl?

Thanks.

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* Re: httpd 502s [was: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...]
  2019-09-13  3:12                           ` Eric Wong
@ 2019-09-13  7:03                             ` Eric Wong
  2019-09-13  9:01                             ` Eric Wong
  2019-09-13 18:07                             ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Eric Wong @ 2019-09-13  7:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Konstantin Ryabitsev; +Cc: meta

Eric Wong <e@80x24.org> wrote:
> Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > I sent you a dump of lsof -p of all 4 processes after about 20 minutes
> > of running. For another data point, the daemon was running in
> > SELinux-permissive mode, to make sure unlinks aren't failing because of
> > any permission errors.

Oh, another curiosity.  It would be good to know the
/proc/$pid/fdinfo/$fd_of_eventpoll to know what state
the pipes in the epoll descriptor to tie those with lsof output.
It won't help with deleted regular files, though...

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* Re: httpd 502s [was: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...]
  2019-09-13  3:12                           ` Eric Wong
  2019-09-13  7:03                             ` Eric Wong
@ 2019-09-13  9:01                             ` Eric Wong
  2019-09-13 18:07                             ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Eric Wong @ 2019-09-13  9:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Konstantin Ryabitsev; +Cc: meta

Eric Wong <e@80x24.org> wrote:
> # unrelated note: there's 4 pipes from -W1 (the default),
> # but I think 2 can be closed, actually...

Nevermind on the extra pipes, I was running lsof on the master :x.
"[RFC 2/1] t/git-http-backend: disable worker processes"
cuts it down to a single process (no master/worker distinction)
so lsof is seeing the right pid.

> GIANT_GIT_DIR=/path/to/git.git MANY_CLONE=1 prove -lv t/git-http-backend.t

And now no pipes are visible at all, so either that test can't
trigger it, or neither of the systems I'm testing on can't trigger
it...

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* Re: httpd 502s [was: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...]
  2019-09-13  3:12                           ` Eric Wong
  2019-09-13  7:03                             ` Eric Wong
  2019-09-13  9:01                             ` Eric Wong
@ 2019-09-13 18:07                             ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
  2019-09-14  5:25                               ` Eric Wong
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Konstantin Ryabitsev @ 2019-09-13 18:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Wong; +Cc: meta

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 03:12:12AM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> > No, it's just vanilla what comes with the source.
> 
> OK, and Perl 5.16.3 from CentOS 7?  (4:5.16.3-294.el7_6 RPM)

Correct, though another thing that may help is the git version -- we
install git2u from IUS, so the git version is not what is in standard
CentOS7 (it's too ancient).

# rpm -q git2u
git2u-2.16.5-1.ius.centos7.x86_64

See if you have more luck reproducing the problem when you get that in
place. You should be able to find what you need by searching for "git2u
ius centos".

My access over the next 10 days is going to be spotty due to travel, but
I'll try to catch up at least once a day.

Thanks again for your help!

-K

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* Re: httpd 502s [was: trying to figure out 100% CPU usage in nntpd...]
  2019-09-13 18:07                             ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
@ 2019-09-14  5:25                               ` Eric Wong
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Eric Wong @ 2019-09-14  5:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: meta; +Cc: Konstantin Ryabitsev

Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 03:12:12AM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> > > No, it's just vanilla what comes with the source.
> > 
> > OK, and Perl 5.16.3 from CentOS 7?  (4:5.16.3-294.el7_6 RPM)
> 
> Correct, though another thing that may help is the git version -- we
> install git2u from IUS, so the git version is not what is in standard
> CentOS7 (it's too ancient).
> 
> # rpm -q git2u
> git2u-2.16.5-1.ius.centos7.x86_64
> 
> See if you have more luck reproducing the problem when you get that in
> place. You should be able to find what you need by searching for "git2u
> ius centos".

Tried git2u, didn't help.  I wouldn't expect external processes
such as nginx or git-http-backend having any impact on leaks
unless it's slower/faster and triggers a race in public-inbox.

At this point I suspect it's timing-related in our code but
maybe not something my hardware/VM is capable of reproducing.

What level of parallelism is grokmirror using?

I am very curious if anybody else sees it, too...

> My access over the next 10 days is going to be spotty due to travel, but
> I'll try to catch up at least once a day.

The /proc fdinfo of the eventpoll descriptor+lsof at the same
time would be helpful if you get a moment.  But it's understandable
if you don't :>

> Thanks again for your help!

No problem.  I've gone through the code again but nothing jumped
out at me.  Will add some comments and dig into it again after
I do some other stuff.

Enjoy your travels!

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user/dev discussion of public-inbox itself

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	git clone --mirror http://public-inbox.org/meta
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	git clone --mirror http://ou63pmih66umazou.onion/meta

Example config snippet for mirrors

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	nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.mail.public-inbox.general

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