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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff Hostetler <git@jeffhostetler.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Hostetler <jeffhost@microsoft.com>,
	Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] trace2 API: don't save a copy of constant "thread_name"
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 07:40:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqlepmwhhr.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <221011.86lepmo5dn.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> ("Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason"'s message of "Tue, 11 Oct 2022 14:52:11 +0200")

Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:

> Per Junio's "That's nice to learn, indeed." in
> <xmqqo7uoh1q0.fsf@gitster.g> it seems to have had that intended effect
> on him.

I was commenting on the goal, i.e. you "may still be missing some
context here, maybe there's a plan to ...", and I meant that the
plan of the overall effort is something that is nice to learn before
going further.  I was not endorsing the method you are taking to
achieve that goal, though.

FWIW, I find my code sent in as a comment easier to read than my
prose alone for any topic, but that is only because it is "my" code
is easy to read for "me".  I am sure others would find it
unnecessary burden to figure out what the alternative/replacement I
send out intends to do and why it does so in the way it does, and
would rather appreciate if I explained these things in prose that is
easy to understand and rich in "why", which alternative/replacement
code would solely lack.  Code snippet helps illustrate points on
"how", but is often a poor replacement for proper explanation
because it is a bad medium to convey "why".

Same would apply to your code.  For others, including me, it often
is a lot of work to figure out what your code is trying to do, and
more importantly why it does what it tries to do in the way it does.

After all, when you are having hard time communicating why you want
to do things differently from the patch author in prose, code
snippet would probably be the worst primary medium to do so, because
it is full of "how exactly" with little "why".



  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-11 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-04 16:19 [PATCH 0/9] Trace2 timers and counters and some cleanup Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-04 16:19 ` [PATCH 1/9] builtin/merge-file: fix compiler warning on MacOS with clang 11.0.0 Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-04 16:20 ` [PATCH 2/9] builtin/unpack-objects.c: " Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-04 16:20 ` [PATCH 3/9] trace2: use size_t alloc,nr_open_regions in tr2tls_thread_ctx Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-04 16:20 ` [PATCH 4/9] tr2tls: clarify TLS terminology Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-04 16:20 ` [PATCH 5/9] trace2: rename trace2 thread_name argument as name_hint Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-04 16:20 ` [PATCH 6/9] trace2: convert ctx.thread_name to flex array Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-05 11:14   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-06 16:28     ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-10-10 18:31     ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-10-05 18:03   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-06 21:05     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-06 21:50       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-07  1:10         ` [RFC PATCH] trace2 API: don't save a copy of constant "thread_name" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-07  1:16           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-07 10:03             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-10 19:16               ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-10-11 13:31                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-12 13:31                   ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-10-10 19:05           ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-10-11 12:52             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-11 14:40               ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2022-10-10 18:39       ` [PATCH 6/9] trace2: convert ctx.thread_name to flex array Jeff Hostetler
2022-10-04 16:20 ` [PATCH 7/9] api-trace2.txt: elminate section describing the public trace2 API Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-04 16:20 ` [PATCH 8/9] trace2: add stopwatch timers Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-04 16:20 ` [PATCH 9/9] trace2: add global counter mechanism Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-05 13:04 ` [PATCH 0/9] Trace2 timers and counters and some cleanup Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-06 15:45   ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-10-06 18:12 ` Derrick Stolee
2022-10-12 18:52 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] " Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-12 18:52   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] trace2: use size_t alloc,nr_open_regions in tr2tls_thread_ctx Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-12 18:52   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] tr2tls: clarify TLS terminology Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-13 21:12     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-12 18:52   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] api-trace2.txt: elminate section describing the public trace2 API Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-12 18:52   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] trace2: rename the thread_name argument to trace2_thread_start Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-12 21:06     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-20 14:40       ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-10-13 21:12     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-12 18:52   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] trace2: convert ctx.thread_name from strbuf to pointer Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-13 21:12     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-12 18:52   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] trace2: add stopwatch timers Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-13 21:12     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-20 14:42       ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-10-12 18:52   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] trace2: add global counter mechanism Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-20 18:28   ` [PATCH v3 0/8] Trace2 timers and counters and some cleanup Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-20 18:28     ` [PATCH v3 1/8] trace2: use size_t alloc,nr_open_regions in tr2tls_thread_ctx Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-20 18:28     ` [PATCH v3 2/8] tr2tls: clarify TLS terminology Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-20 18:28     ` [PATCH v3 3/8] api-trace2.txt: elminate section describing the public trace2 API Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-20 18:28     ` [PATCH v3 4/8] trace2: rename the thread_name argument to trace2_thread_start Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-20 18:28     ` [PATCH v3 5/8] trace2: improve thread-name documentation in the thread-context Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-20 18:57       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-20 20:15         ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-10-20 18:28     ` [PATCH v3 6/8] trace2: convert ctx.thread_name from strbuf to pointer Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-20 18:28     ` [PATCH v3 7/8] trace2: add stopwatch timers Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-20 20:25       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-20 20:52         ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-10-20 20:55           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-21 21:51             ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-10-20 18:28     ` [PATCH v3 8/8] trace2: add global counter mechanism Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-24 13:40     ` [PATCH v4 0/8] Trace2 timers and counters and some cleanup Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-24 13:41       ` [PATCH v4 1/8] trace2: use size_t alloc,nr_open_regions in tr2tls_thread_ctx Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-24 20:31         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-25 12:35           ` Derrick Stolee
2022-10-25 15:40             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-24 13:41       ` [PATCH v4 2/8] tr2tls: clarify TLS terminology Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-24 13:41       ` [PATCH v4 3/8] api-trace2.txt: elminate section describing the public trace2 API Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-24 13:41       ` [PATCH v4 4/8] trace2: rename the thread_name argument to trace2_thread_start Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-24 13:41       ` [PATCH v4 5/8] trace2: improve thread-name documentation in the thread-context Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-24 13:41       ` [PATCH v4 6/8] trace2: convert ctx.thread_name from strbuf to pointer Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-24 13:41       ` [PATCH v4 7/8] trace2: add stopwatch timers Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-24 13:41       ` [PATCH v4 8/8] trace2: add global counter mechanism Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2022-10-25 12:27       ` [PATCH v4 0/8] Trace2 timers and counters and some cleanup Derrick Stolee
2022-10-25 15:36         ` Junio C Hamano

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