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From: Ben Peart <peartben@gmail.com>
To: Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>
Cc: git <git@vger.kernel.org>, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, Ben Peart <Ben.Peart@microsoft.com>,
	Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>,
	Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>,
	Lars Schneider <larsxschneider@gmail.com>,
	Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>,
	Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 35/40] Add Documentation/technical/external-odb.txt
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 08:50:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dc9b7aed-c781-d0fc-688f-32d665ad61ab@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP8UFD2VFsJWyP1TWLS15wYz2vQxHd4hG5Bdbo9-B45Q-onG2w@mail.gmail.com>



On 8/29/2017 11:43 AM, Christian Couder wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Ben Peart <peartben@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 8/3/2017 5:19 AM, Christian Couder wrote:
>>>
>>> +Helpers
>>> +=======
>>> +
>>> +ODB helpers are commands that have to be registered using either the
>>> +"odb.<odbname>.subprocessCommand" or the "odb.<odbname>.scriptCommand"
>>> +config variables.
>>> +
>>> +Registering such a command tells Git that an external odb called
>>> +<odbname> exists and that the registered command should be used to
>>> +communicate with it.
>>
>> What order are the odb handlers called? Are they called before or after the
>> regular object store code for loose, pack and alternates?  Is the order
>> configurable?
> 
> For get_*_object instructions the regular code is called before the odb helpers.
> (So the odb helper code is at the end of stat_sha1_file() and of
> open_sha1_file() in sha1_file.c.)
> 
> For put_*_object instructions the regular code is called after the odb helpers.
> (So the odb helper code is at the beginning of write_sha1_file() in
> sha1_file.c.)
> 
> And no this order is not configurable, but of course it could be made
> configurable.
> 
>>> + - 'get_direct <sha1>'
>>> +
>>> +This instruction is similar as the other 'get_*' instructions except
>>> +that no object should be sent from the helper to Git. Instead the
>>> +helper should directly write the requested object into a loose object
>>> +file in the ".git/objects" directory.
>>> +
>>> +After the helper has sent the "status=success" packet and the
>>> +following flush packet in process mode, or after it has exited in the
>>> +script mode, Git should lookup again for a loose object file with the
>>> +requested sha1.
>>
>> When will git call get_direct vs one of the other get_* functions?
> 
> It is called just before exiting when git cannot find an object.
> It is not exactly at the same place as other get_* instructions as I
> tried to reuse your code and as it looks like it makes it easier to
> retry the regular code after the odb helper code.
> 
>> Could the
>> functionality of enabling a helper to populate objects into the regular
>> object store be provided by having a ODB helper that returned the object
>> data as requested by get_git_obj or get_raw_obj but also stored it in the
>> regular object store as a loose object (or pack file) for future calls?
> 
> I am not sure I understand what you mean.
> If a helper returns the object data as requested by get_git_obj or
> get_raw_obj, then currently Git will itself store the object locally
> in its regular object store, so it is redundant for the helper to also
> store or try to store the object in the regular object store.
> 

Doesn't this mean that objects will "leak out" into the regular object 
store as they are used?  For example, at checkout, all objects in the 
requested commit would be retrieved from the various object stores and 
if they came from a "large blob" ODB handler, they would get retrieved 
from the ODB handler and then written to the regular object store 
(presumably as a loose object).  From then on, the object would be 
retrieved from the regular object store.

This would seem to defeat the goal of enabling specialized object 
handlers to handle large or other "unusual" objects that git normally 
doesn't deal well with.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-30 12:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-03  9:18 [PATCH v5 00/40] Add initial experimental external ODB support Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 01/40] builtin/clone: get rid of 'value' strbuf Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 02/40] t0021/rot13-filter: refactor packet reading functions Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 03/40] t0021/rot13-filter: improve 'if .. elsif .. else' style Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 04/40] Add Git/Packet.pm from parts of t0021/rot13-filter.pl Christian Couder
2017-08-03 19:11   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-04  6:32     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 05/40] t0021/rot13-filter: use Git/Packet.pm Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 06/40] Git/Packet.pm: improve error message Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 07/40] Git/Packet.pm: add packet_initialize() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 08/40] Git/Packet.pm: add capability functions Christian Couder
2017-08-03 19:14   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-04 20:34     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 09/40] sha1_file: prepare for external odbs Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 10/40] Add initial external odb support Christian Couder
2017-08-03 19:34   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-03 20:17     ` Jeff King
2017-09-14 10:14     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 11/40] odb-helper: add odb_helper_init() to send 'init' instruction Christian Couder
2017-09-10 12:12   ` Lars Schneider
2017-09-14  7:18     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 12/40] t0400: add 'put_raw_obj' instruction to odb-helper script Christian Couder
2017-09-10 12:12   ` Lars Schneider
2017-09-14  7:09     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 13/40] external odb: add 'put_raw_obj' support Christian Couder
2017-08-03 19:50   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-14  9:17     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 14/40] external-odb: accept only blobs for now Christian Couder
2017-08-03 19:52   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-14  9:59     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 15/40] t0400: add test for external odb write support Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 16/40] Add GIT_NO_EXTERNAL_ODB env variable Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 17/40] Add t0410 to test external ODB transfer Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 18/40] lib-httpd: pass config file to start_httpd() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 19/40] lib-httpd: add upload.sh Christian Couder
2017-08-03 20:07   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-14  7:43     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 20/40] lib-httpd: add list.sh Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 21/40] lib-httpd: add apache-e-odb.conf Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 22/40] odb-helper: add odb_helper_get_raw_object() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 23/40] pack-objects: don't pack objects in external odbs Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 24/40] Add t0420 to test transfer to HTTP external odb Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 25/40] external-odb: add 'get_direct' support Christian Couder
2017-08-03 21:40   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-14  8:39     ` Christian Couder
2017-09-14 18:19       ` Jonathan Tan
2017-09-15 11:24         ` Christian Couder
2017-09-15 20:54           ` Jonathan Tan
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 26/40] odb-helper: add 'script_mode' to 'struct odb_helper' Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 27/40] odb-helper: add init_object_process() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 28/40] Add t0450 to test 'get_direct' mechanism Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 29/40] Add t0460 to test passing git objects Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 30/40] odb-helper: add put_object_process() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 31/40] Add t0470 to test passing raw objects Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 32/40] odb-helper: add have_object_process() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 33/40] Add t0480 to test "have" capability and raw objects Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 34/40] external-odb: use 'odb=magic' attribute to mark odb blobs Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 35/40] Add Documentation/technical/external-odb.txt Christian Couder
2017-08-03 18:38   ` Stefan Beller
2017-08-25  6:14     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-25 21:23       ` Jonathan Tan
2017-08-29  9:37         ` Christian Couder
2017-08-28 18:59   ` Ben Peart
2017-08-29 15:43     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-30 12:50       ` Ben Peart [this message]
2017-08-30 14:15         ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 36/40] clone: add 'initial' param to write_remote_refs() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 37/40] clone: add --initial-refspec option Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 38/40] clone: disable external odb before initial clone Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 39/40] Add tests for 'clone --initial-refspec' Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 40/40] Add t0430 to test cloning using bundles Christian Couder
2017-09-10 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 00/40] Add initial experimental external ODB support Lars Schneider
2017-09-14  7:02   ` Christian Couder

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