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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: PCRE v2 compile error, was Re: What's cooking in git.git (May 2017, #01; Mon, 1)
Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 12:40:40 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1.1705091234210.146734@virtualbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170509003714.ylwn5ezvu5h36kj7@genre.crustytoothpaste.net>

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Hi,

On Tue, 9 May 2017, brian m. carlson wrote:

> On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 02:00:18AM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
> > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 1:32 AM, brian m. carlson
> > <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net> wrote:
> > > PCRE and PCRE2 also tend to have a lot of security updates, so I
> > > would prefer if we didn't import them into the tree.  It is far
> > > better for users to use their distro's packages for PCRE, as it
> > > means they get automatic security updates even if they're using an
> > > old Git.
> > >
> > > We shouldn't consider shipping anything with a remotely frequent
> > > history of security updates in our tree, since people very
> > > frequently run old or ancient versions of Git.
> > 
> > I'm aware of its security record[1], but I wonder what threat model
> > you have in mind here. I'm not aware of any parts of git (except maybe
> > gitweb?) where we take regexes from untrusted sources.
> > 
> > I.e. yes there have been DoS's & even some overflow bugs leading code
> > execution in PCRE, but in the context of powering git-grep & git-log
> > with PCRE this falls into the "stop hitting yourself" category.
> 
> Just because you don't drive Git with untrusted regexes doesn't mean
> other people don't.

Or other applications.

> It's not a good idea to require a stronger security model than we
> absolutely have to, since people can and will violate it.  Think how
> devastating Shellshock was even though technically nobody should provide
> insecure environment variables to the shell.
> 
> And, yes, gitweb does in fact call git grep. That means that git grep
> must in fact be secure against untrusted regexes, or you have a remote
> code execution vulnerability.

And not only grep is affected. Think HEAD^{/<regex>}. There are plenty of
sites where you are allowed to specify revs in a freer form than SHA-1s.

Having said that, I do like the prospect of a faster git grep.

Hopefully there will be a way to make use of PCRE that can be switched
off? Like, a compile-time replacement of the regex API backed by PCRE v2
*iff* PCRE v2 is used for building?

Ciao,
Dscho

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-09 10:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-01  5:35 What's cooking in git.git (May 2017, #01; Mon, 1) Junio C Hamano
2017-05-01 14:25 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-01 16:21   ` Brandon Williams
2017-05-01 17:44     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-01 19:29   ` Jeff King
2017-05-01 23:21   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-02  8:23     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-02  9:35       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-02 12:31         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-02 11:11 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-02 12:09 ` PCRE v2 compile error, was " Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-02 12:27   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-02 16:05     ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-02 18:52       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-02 20:51         ` Kevin Daudt
2017-05-02 21:16           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-03  9:45         ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-03 11:15           ` Duy Nguyen
2017-05-03 15:10           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-04  9:11             ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-04 10:24               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-04 11:32                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-04 11:53                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-08  6:30                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-08  7:10                     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-08 23:32                       ` brian m. carlson
2017-05-09  0:00                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-09  0:37                           ` brian m. carlson
2017-05-09 10:40                             ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2017-05-09 11:29                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-09 11:12                             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-09 14:22                               ` demerphq
2017-05-09 14:46                                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-02 17:43     ` Brandon Williams
2017-05-02 17:49       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-05  1:12 ` Ramsay Jones

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