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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Abide by our own rules regarding line endings
Date: Thu, 4 May 2017 20:48:10 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1.1705042038150.4905@virtualbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqq60hgacjp.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com>

Hi Junio,

On Thu, 4 May 2017, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:
> 
> > Well, a couple of comments about your comment:
> >
> > - we say "shell scripts", but we're sloppy there: they are "Unix shell
> >   scripts", as they are executed by Unix shells. As such, it is pretty
> >   obvious that they favor Unix line endings, right? And that they do not
> >   really handle anything else well, right?
> 
> Not really.  I would expect that
> 
> 	cat A B C
> 
> with CRLF line endings (i.e. "cat A B C<CR><LF>") on platforms whose
> eol convention is LF to barf due to the missing file whose name is
> "C<CR>", while on platforms whose eol convention is CRLF, I do
> expect the contents of file C comes at the end of the output.

Let me repeat myself: `cat` is a Unix utility. Unix line endings are
LF-only.

So when you say "platform whose eol convention is CRLF", you speak about a
platform that is not Unix.

If you want to run `cat` on Linux, you have to have a Unix-y environment.
Ergo: LF-only line endings.

The real problem arises only because I decided to ship Git for Windows
with a POSIX emulating environment to execute the Unix shell and Perl
scripts.

The real solution would have been to push harder for "builtinification",
but you know yourself how hard of an uphill effort that is, as the idea is
still prevalent that having a large part of Git be implemented as
shell/Perl scripts is not only okay, but even a Good Thing (and
portability is then a matter of making every contributor know what
constructs are portable and to avoid, say, Bashisms or GNU sed's options
that are incompatible with BSD sed's options).

Ciao,
Dscho

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-04 18:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-02 12:29 [PATCH 0/5] Abide by our own rules regarding line endings Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-02 12:30 ` [PATCH 1/5] Fix build with core.autocrlf=true Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-02 12:30 ` [PATCH 2/5] git-new-workdir: mark script as LF-only Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-02 12:30 ` [PATCH 3/5] completion: mark bash " Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-02 12:30 ` [PATCH 4/5] Fix the remaining tests that failed with core.autocrlf=true Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-02 12:30 ` [PATCH 5/5] t4051: mark supporting files as requiring LF-only line endings Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-02 21:56 ` [PATCH 0/5] Abide by our own rules regarding " Jonathan Nieder
2017-05-03 14:23   ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-04  5:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-04  9:47   ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-04 15:04     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-04 18:48       ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2017-05-07  5:29         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-08 10:49           ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-04  9:49 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] " Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-04  9:49   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] Fix build with core.autocrlf=true Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-08  5:08     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-04  9:49   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] git-new-workdir: mark script as LF-only Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-08  5:11     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-04  9:49   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] completion: mark bash " Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-04  9:49   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] t3901: move supporting files into t/t3901/ Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-08  5:12     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-04  9:50   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] t4003, t4005, t4007 & t4008: handle CR/LF in t/README & t/diff-lib/README Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-08  5:14     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-04  9:50   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] Fix the remaining tests that failed with core.autocrlf=true Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-08  5:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-04  9:50   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] t4051: mark supporting files as requiring LF-only line endings Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-08  5:29     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-09 11:20       ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-09 12:53   ` [PATCH v3 0/6] Abide by our own rules regarding " Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-09 12:53     ` [PATCH v3 1/6] Fix build with core.autocrlf=true Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-22 17:57       ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-05-23  3:35         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-23  9:01           ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-09 12:53     ` [PATCH v3 2/6] git-new-workdir: mark script as LF-only Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-09 12:54     ` [PATCH v3 3/6] completion: mark bash " Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-09 12:54     ` [PATCH v3 4/6] t3901: move supporting files into t/t3901/ Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-09 12:54     ` [PATCH v3 5/6] Fix the remaining tests that failed with core.autocrlf=true Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-09 12:54     ` [PATCH v3 6/6] t4051: mark supporting files as requiring LF-only line endings Johannes Schindelin

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