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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/9] Fix the early config
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 17:18:46 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1703081701100.3767@virtualbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170308073035.pt5ysp6bzpozoqps@sigill.intra.peff.net>

Hi Peff,

On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, Jeff King wrote:

> Another "non-gentle" thing I noticed here while looking at
> another thread: the repository-format version check uses the config
> parser, which will die() in certain circumstances. [...]

Yes, that is part of the reason why I was not eager to add that check to
discover_git_directory(). The config code is die()-happy.

This is a much bigger problem, of course, and related to a constant gripe
of mine: I *always* get the quoting wrong in my aliases. Always. And when
I want to fix it, `git config -e` simply errors out because of an invalid
config. Yes, Git, I know, that is the exact reason why I want to edit the
config in the first place.

I am certain you will agree that this is a different topic, therefore
subject to a separate patch series.

In any case, I am fairly certain that the examples you showed demonstrate
that the config has to be rather broken for this patch series to have a
negative impact. And it still would report the broken config so that the
user is not blocked (she can fix the config and call the paginating
command again).

> On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 03:31:43PM +0100, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> 
> > And another change: the GIT_DIR_NONE value was handled incorrectly in
> > discover_git_directory().
> 
> This is the "if (setup_git_directory_1() <= 0)" change from the
> interdiff? That's subtle.

Yes, it is subtle.

> The compiler could have noticed if we used a switch statement here. But
> then any new error conditions would have to be added to that switch
> statement.

We could still do that.

> > I am slightly disappointed that the these additional problems were not
> > spotted in any review but my own. And I had not even included a Duck.
> 
> Get used to being disappointed, I guess. A non-zero number of bugs will
> slip through when writing code _and_ when reviewing it.

I know that. I know that bugs are prone to come in through code
contributions. I don't go for 100%. But I would hope for a better rate
than we have right now: we pride ourselves in the OSS community to make bugs
shallow. I really would like to believe that we catch bugs rather than
discuss formatting (which should be automated) or white-space mangling
(which should not even be a problem if we were truly open for
contributions).

Maybe I am just a grumpy old guy. But I *hate* seeing how much buggy code
we get into Git, despite having a review process that does a very good job
of deterring seasoned developers from contributing.

I really wish it were different. I really wish that we did a better job at
catching bugs before they enter `master`. I really wish that I could be
proud of our code review process.

> > [ceil_offset]
> > Hopefully that clears up the picture?
> 
> Yes, it does. Thanks.

Perfect. Then the time I spent trying to figure all of this out was not
spent in vain.

Ciao,
Dscho

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-08 16:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-08 15:35 [PATCH/RFC 0/7] Pie-in-the-sky attempt to fix the early config Johannes Schindelin
2016-12-08 15:36 ` [PATCH/RFC 1/7] Make read_early_config() reusable Johannes Schindelin
2016-12-08 15:36 ` [PATCH/RFC 2/7] read_early_config(): avoid .git/config hack when unneeded Johannes Schindelin
2016-12-08 15:36 ` [PATCH/RFC 3/7] Mark builtins that create .git/ directories Johannes Schindelin
2016-12-08 15:36 ` [PATCH/RFC 4/7] read_early_config(): special-case `init` and `clone` Johannes Schindelin
2016-12-08 15:36 ` [PATCH/RFC 5/7] read_early_config(): really discover .git/ Johannes Schindelin
2016-12-08 15:36 ` [PATCH/RFC 6/7] WIP read_config_early(): respect ceiling directories Johannes Schindelin
2016-12-08 15:36 ` [PATCH/RFC 7/7] WIP: read_early_config(): add tests Johannes Schindelin
2016-12-08 17:26 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/7] Pie-in-the-sky attempt to fix the early config Jeff King
2016-12-09 17:28   ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-12-09 17:55     ` Jeff King
2016-12-09 12:42 ` Duy Nguyen
2016-12-09 16:52   ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03  2:03 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] Fix " Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03  2:04   ` [PATCH v2 1/9] t7006: replace dubious test Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03  3:36     ` Jeff King
2017-03-03 11:10       ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03  2:04   ` [PATCH v2 2/9] setup_git_directory(): use is_dir_sep() helper Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03  3:37     ` Jeff King
2017-03-03 11:16       ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03 11:26         ` Jeff King
2017-03-03 15:35           ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03  2:04   ` [PATCH v2 3/9] setup_git_directory(): avoid changing global state during discovery Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03  4:24     ` Jeff King
2017-03-03 13:54       ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03  2:04   ` [PATCH v2 4/9] Export the discover_git_directory() function Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03  4:45     ` Jeff King
2017-03-03 14:49       ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03  2:04   ` [PATCH v2 5/9] Make read_early_config() reusable Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03  4:46     ` Jeff King
2017-03-03 14:11       ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03  2:04   ` [PATCH v2 6/9] read_early_config(): special-case builtins that create a repository Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03  4:51     ` Jeff King
2017-03-03 15:11       ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03  2:04   ` [PATCH v2 7/9] read_early_config(): avoid .git/config hack when unneeded Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03  4:51     ` Jeff King
2017-03-03  2:04   ` [PATCH v2 8/9] read_early_config(): really discover .git/ Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03  5:06     ` Jeff King
2017-03-03 15:26       ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03  2:04   ` [PATCH v2 9/9] Test read_early_config() Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03  5:07     ` Jeff King
2017-03-03 15:04       ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03  5:14   ` [PATCH v2 0/9] Fix the early config Jeff King
2017-03-03 15:31     ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03 17:31   ` [PATCH v3 " Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03 17:32     ` [PATCH v3 1/9] t7006: replace dubious test Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03 17:32     ` [PATCH v3 2/9] setup_git_directory(): use is_dir_sep() helper Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03 17:32     ` [PATCH v3 3/9] Prepare setup_discovered_git_directory() the root directory Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03 17:32     ` [PATCH v3 4/9] setup_git_directory_1(): avoid changing global state Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03 17:33     ` [PATCH v3 5/9] Export the discover_git_directory() function Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03 17:33     ` [PATCH v3 6/9] Make read_early_config() reusable Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03 17:33     ` [PATCH v3 7/9] read_early_config(): avoid .git/config hack when unneeded Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03 17:33     ` [PATCH v3 8/9] read_early_config(): really discover .git/ Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03 17:33     ` [PATCH v3 9/9] Test read_early_config() Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-03 21:35     ` [PATCH v3 0/9] Fix the early config Junio C Hamano
2017-03-07 11:55       ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-07 15:18       ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-04  7:39     ` Jeff King
2017-03-05  3:36       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-07 14:31       ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-08  7:30         ` Jeff King
2017-03-08 16:18           ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2017-03-08 16:29             ` Jeff King
2017-03-08 17:09           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-08 17:42             ` Jeff King
2017-03-08 22:43               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-09 11:51                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-09 12:16                   ` Jeff King
2017-03-10 16:39                     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-07 14:32     ` [PATCH v4 00/10] " Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-07 14:32       ` [PATCH v4 01/10] t7006: replace dubious test Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-07 14:32       ` [PATCH v4 02/10] setup_git_directory(): use is_dir_sep() helper Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-07 14:32       ` [PATCH v4 03/10] Prepare setup_discovered_git_directory() the root directory Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-07 14:32       ` [PATCH v4 04/10] setup_git_directory_1(): avoid changing global state Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-07 23:24         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-07 23:35         ` Brandon Williams
2017-03-08  0:57           ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-08  2:10             ` Brandon Williams
2017-03-07 14:33       ` [PATCH v4 05/10] Introduce the discover_git_directory() function Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-07 14:33       ` [PATCH v4 06/10] Make read_early_config() reusable Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-07 14:33       ` [PATCH v4 07/10] read_early_config(): avoid .git/config hack when unneeded Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-07 14:33       ` [PATCH v4 08/10] read_early_config(): really discover .git/ Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-07 14:33       ` [PATCH v4 09/10] Test read_early_config() Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-07 14:33       ` [PATCH v4 10/10] setup_git_directory_gently_1(): avoid die()ing Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-09 22:23       ` [PATCH v5 00/11] Fix the early config Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-09 22:23         ` [PATCH v5 01/11] t7006: replace dubious test Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-09 22:23         ` [PATCH v5 02/11] setup_git_directory(): use is_dir_sep() helper Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-09 22:23         ` [PATCH v5 03/11] Prepare setup_discovered_git_directory() the root directory Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-09 22:24         ` [PATCH v5 04/11] setup_git_directory_1(): avoid changing global state Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-10 19:34           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-09 22:24         ` [PATCH v5 05/11] Introduce the discover_git_directory() function Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-09 22:24         ` [PATCH v5 06/11] Make read_early_config() reusable Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-09 22:24         ` [PATCH v5 07/11] read_early_config(): avoid .git/config hack when unneeded Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-09 22:25         ` [PATCH v5 08/11] read_early_config(): really discover .git/ Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-09 22:25         ` [PATCH v5 09/11] Test read_early_config() Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-10 19:02           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-13 17:19             ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-13 17:32               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-09 22:25         ` [PATCH v5 10/11] setup_git_directory_gently_1(): avoid die()ing Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-10 18:58           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-13 19:38             ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-13 19:47               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-13 20:20                 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-13 21:46                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-13 23:31                     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-09 22:25         ` [PATCH v5 11/11] t1309: document cases where we would want early config not to die() Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-13 20:09         ` [PATCH v6 00/12] Fix the early config Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-13 20:09           ` [PATCH v6 01/12] t7006: replace dubious test Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-13 20:09           ` [PATCH v6 02/12] setup_git_directory(): use is_dir_sep() helper Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-13 20:09           ` [PATCH v6 03/12] Prepare setup_discovered_git_directory() the root directory Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-13 20:34             ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-13 21:44               ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-13 20:10           ` [PATCH v6 04/12] setup_git_directory_1(): avoid changing global state Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-13 20:10           ` [PATCH v6 05/12] Introduce the discover_git_directory() function Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-13 20:11           ` [PATCH v6 06/12] Make read_early_config() reusable Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-13 20:11           ` [PATCH v6 07/12] read_early_config(): avoid .git/config hack when unneeded Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-13 20:11           ` [PATCH v6 08/12] read_early_config(): really discover .git/ Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-13 20:11           ` [PATCH v6 09/12] Add t1309 to test read_early_config() Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-13 20:11           ` [PATCH v6 10/12] setup_git_directory_gently_1(): avoid die()ing Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-13 20:11           ` [PATCH v6 11/12] t1309: document cases where we would want early config not to die() Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-13 20:12           ` [PATCH v6 12/12] setup.c: mention unresolved problems Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-13 22:31           ` [PATCH v6 00/12] Fix the early config Junio C Hamano
2017-03-14 18:01             ` Jeff King

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