From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,RP_MATCHES_RCVD shortcircuit=no autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE501FD99 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 19:52:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S935415AbcHJTwJ (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Aug 2016 15:52:09 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f44.google.com ([74.125.82.44]:35811 "EHLO mail-wm0-f44.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S935768AbcHJShB (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Aug 2016 14:37:01 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f44.google.com with SMTP id f65so106441769wmi.0 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 11:37:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=X1nXcY/1Ibmfqu6oowDV6PaC+sZXrl4A3jg+tMNtAGY=; b=RTkQ3P4uvqO1Am3HmZ85tLchPJAj/wUs5mQP7Z/szf4v+eo/yiKfgR0yrN7kjyqnAh KWKaMMWaRDWngDOYHXWVanwQB0zMfJ7NIdHV0s2CCaAK+fubdLmIHDC08t6+AasUNH3S ihSiLd8e5vbGtzpgLI9uaPoTeMY6FkXNjYoImvt1ix8O8PzMy7jeZkYAe+SZENVgo1Lk mqpeT+TfQml/7sYs7yZVAEIUlp/Fstnx/T9VeLAiSsr/h0JZPIqgEsEmGQC0ss4DPvDP mtOOZbw+dKwM/ZIxOgVzXJzx7Ka1Dv74azhsQA2/Uz92W8SOdjJr0EeNl7HqAec52IWn 12kQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=X1nXcY/1Ibmfqu6oowDV6PaC+sZXrl4A3jg+tMNtAGY=; b=fvrTIejvAWBV7qTcnO9UJ9DUx0cMHKhchBesHiogqbuOyBjHMqCOMO/qO38o/Yvz/G 5vW8hhKaB7wA2rqXqMCt8NvU+Wi8AEA3s4CMuJzU2PigqSN4kuOlbQKMF6ATXmstB0dh rpMx2rhiM2IapRyqe3utWkze99xplFBnKWKtjk/E9p/Dca+iYOM3bkq8deH9TbPRqyj9 GflBX51+6I/wTBYt/blfC/R1vpJ/a23fbQDK1mkAPuhMg2rtKse9Vhetvv1hk7YVULqF 9G0cAy16Ur1eWOdAV5ujDqYAlhrIy1NPgEFdjahqoMbYv/YVStY0z81Dkru3+ErnzR5a 9fJw== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouvETqsDtf+P+4D4I3BlNC8h4YbxrS/Dw4IlDG4+nFklak4fbUhAwx0RP7kBw/2y7cGys8S6JwEPE2gvxA== X-Received: by 10.28.203.136 with SMTP id b130mr1544707wmg.13.1470814242283; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 00:30:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.102.70 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 00:30:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160810005548.gee6ontd33ck5vej@x> References: <6c937f79-2b82-619d-51fe-adccbe09bd66@alum.mit.edu> <20160809182800.GA19044@dcvr> <20160810005548.gee6ontd33ck5vej@x> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jakub_Nar=C4=99bski?= Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 09:30:01 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: patch submission process, was Re: [PATCH v6 06/16] merge_recursive: abort properly upon errors To: Josh Triplett Cc: Eric Wong , Michael Haggerty , Johannes Schindelin , Stefan Beller , Junio C Hamano , Git Mailing List , Eric Sunshine , Jeff King , Johannes Sixt , Duy Nguyen , Richard Ipsum , Lars Schneider , Philip Oakley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On 10 August 2016 at 02:55, Josh Triplett wrote: > On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 06:28:00PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote: >> Some of these problems I hope public-inbox (or something like >> it) can fix and turn the tide towards email, again. > > This really seems like the dichotomy that drives people towards central > services like GitHub or GitLab. We need an alternative that doesn't > involve email, or at the very least, doesn't require people to use email > directly. Half of the pain in the process comes from coaxing email > clients that don't treat mail text as sacrosanct to leave it alone and > not mangle it. (Some of that would go away if we accepted attachments > with inline disposition, but not all of it. All of it would go away if > the submission process just involved "git push" to an appropriate > location.) But submission is less important than review. And for review it is usually better (except gigantic series) to have patch text for review with the review. And threading. And (meta)-versioning of series. And place for proof-of-concept / weather-balon patches... -- Jakub Narebski