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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: "René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>,
	"Liam Beguin" <liambeguin@gmail.com>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>, "Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
	"Philip Oakley" <philipoakley@iee.org>,
	"Phillip Wood" <phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/10] The final building block for a faster rebase -i
Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 14:50:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACBZZX4avOKJjWVSBSewNFMWyRj3FzHC2Onw3aWLf1F_MYi+Gg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1.1705291247000.3610@virtualbox>

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Johannes Schindelin
<Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi René,
>
> On Sat, 27 May 2017, René Scharfe wrote:
>
>> Am 26.05.2017 um 05:15 schrieb Liam Beguin:
>> > I tried to time the execution on an interactive rebase (on Linux) but
>> > I did not notice a significant change in speed.
>> > Do we have a way to measure performance / speed changes between version?
>>
>> Well, there's performance test script p3404-rebase-interactive.sh.  You
>> could run it e.g. like this:
>>
>>       $ (cd t/perf && ./run origin/master HEAD ./p3404*.sh)
>>
>> This would compare the performance of master with the current branch
>> you're on.  The results of p3404 are quite noisy for me on master,
>> though (saw 15% difference between runs without any code changes), so
>> take them with a bag of salt.
>
> Indeed. Our performance tests are simply not very meaningful.
>
> Part of it is the use of shell scripting (which defeats performance
> testing pretty well),

Don't the performance tests take long enough that the shellscripting
overhead gets lost in the noise? E.g. on Windows what do you get when
you run this in t/perf:

    $ GIT_PERF_REPEAT_COUNT=3 GIT_PERF_MAKE_OPTS="-j6 NO_OPENSSL=Y
BLK_SHA1=Y CFLAGS=-O3" ./run v2.10.0 v2.12.0 v2.13.0 p3400-rebase.sh

I get split-index performance improving by 28% in 2.12 and 58% in
2.13, small error bars even with just 3 runs. This is on Linux, but my
sense of fork overhead on Windows is that it isn't so bad as to matter
here.

I'd also be interested to see what sort of results you get for my
"grep: add support for the PCRE v1 JIT API" patch which is in pu now,
assuming you have a PCRE newer than 8.32 or so.

> another part is that we have no performance testing
> experts among us, and failed to attract any, so not only is the repeat
> count ridiculously small, we also have no graphing worth speaking of (and
> therefore it is impossible to even see trends, which is a rather important
> visual way to verify sound performance testing).
>
> Frankly, I have no illusion about this getting fixed, ever.

I have a project on my TODO that I've been meaning to get to which
would address this. I'd be interested to know what people think about
the design:

* Run the perf tests in some more where the raw runtimes are saved away
* Have some way to dump a static html page from that with graphs over
time (with gnuplot svg?)
* Supply some config file to drive this, so you can e.g. run each
tests N times against your repo X for the last 10 versions of git.
* Since it's static HTML it would be trivial for anyone to share such
results, and e.g. setup running them in cron to regularly publish to
github pages.

> So yes, in the meantime we need to use those numbers with a considerable
> amount of skepticism.

...however, while the presentation could be improved, I've seen no
reason to think that the underlying numbers are suspect, or that the
perf framework needs to be rewritten as opposed to improved upon. If
you don't think so I'd like to know why.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-29 12:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-02 16:22 [PATCH 0/9] The final building block for a faster rebase -i Johannes Schindelin
2016-09-02 16:23 ` [PATCH 1/9] rebase -i: generate the script via rebase--helper Johannes Schindelin
2016-09-02 16:23 ` [PATCH 2/9] rebase -i: remove useless indentation Johannes Schindelin
2016-09-02 16:23 ` [PATCH 3/9] rebase -i: do not invent onelines when expanding/collapsing SHA-1s Johannes Schindelin
2016-09-02 16:23 ` [PATCH 4/9] rebase -i: also expand/collapse the SHA-1s via the rebase--helper Johannes Schindelin
2016-09-02 20:56   ` Dennis Kaarsemaker
2016-09-03  7:01     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-09-02 16:23 ` [PATCH 5/9] t3404: relax rebase.missingCommitsCheck tests Johannes Schindelin
2016-09-02 16:23 ` [PATCH 6/9] rebase -i: check for missing commits in the rebase--helper Johannes Schindelin
2016-09-02 20:59   ` Dennis Kaarsemaker
2016-09-02 16:23 ` [PATCH 7/9] rebase -i: skip unnecessary picks using " Johannes Schindelin
2016-09-02 16:23 ` [PATCH 8/9] t3415: test fixup with wrapped oneline Johannes Schindelin
2016-09-02 16:23 ` [PATCH 9/9] rebase -i: rearrange fixup/squash lines using the rebase--helper Johannes Schindelin
2016-09-03 18:03   ` Josh Triplett
2016-09-04  6:47     ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-25 13:51 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] The final building block for a faster rebase -i Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-25 13:51   ` [PATCH v2 1/9] rebase -i: generate the script via rebase--helper Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-26 10:45     ` Jeff King
2017-04-26 11:34       ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-25 13:51   ` [PATCH v2 2/9] rebase -i: remove useless indentation Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-25 13:51   ` [PATCH v2 3/9] rebase -i: do not invent onelines when expanding/collapsing SHA-1s Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-25 13:51   ` [PATCH v2 4/9] rebase -i: also expand/collapse the SHA-1s via the rebase--helper Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-25 13:52   ` [PATCH v2 5/9] t3404: relax rebase.missingCommitsCheck tests Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-25 13:52   ` [PATCH v2 6/9] rebase -i: check for missing commits in the rebase--helper Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-25 13:52   ` [PATCH v2 7/9] rebase -i: skip unnecessary picks using " Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-26 10:55     ` Jeff King
2017-04-26 11:31       ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-25 13:52   ` [PATCH v2 8/9] t3415: test fixup with wrapped oneline Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-25 13:52   ` [PATCH v2 9/9] rebase -i: rearrange fixup/squash lines using the rebase--helper Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-26  3:32   ` [PATCH v2 0/9] The final building block for a faster rebase -i Junio C Hamano
2017-04-26 11:59   ` [PATCH v3 " Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-26 11:59     ` [PATCH v3 1/9] rebase -i: generate the script via rebase--helper Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-27  4:31       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-04-27 14:18         ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-28  0:13           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-04-28  2:36             ` Junio C Hamano
2017-04-28 15:13             ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-01  3:11               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-01 11:47                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-28 10:08       ` Phillip Wood
2017-04-28 19:22         ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-01 10:06           ` Phillip Wood
2017-05-01 11:58             ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-01  0:49         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-01 11:06           ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-26 11:59     ` [PATCH v3 2/9] rebase -i: remove useless indentation Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-26 11:59     ` [PATCH v3 3/9] rebase -i: do not invent onelines when expanding/collapsing SHA-1s Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-26 11:59     ` [PATCH v3 4/9] rebase -i: also expand/collapse the SHA-1s via the rebase--helper Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-27  5:00       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-04-27  6:47         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-04-27 21:44         ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-28  0:15           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-04-28 15:15             ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-26 11:59     ` [PATCH v3 5/9] t3404: relax rebase.missingCommitsCheck tests Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-27  5:05       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-04-27 22:01         ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-26 11:59     ` [PATCH v3 6/9] rebase -i: check for missing commits in the rebase--helper Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-27  5:32       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-04-28 15:10         ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-26 12:00     ` [PATCH v3 7/9] rebase -i: skip unnecessary picks using " Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-26 12:00     ` [PATCH v3 8/9] t3415: test fixup with wrapped oneline Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-26 12:00     ` [PATCH v3 9/9] rebase -i: rearrange fixup/squash lines using the rebase--helper Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-28 21:30     ` [PATCH v4 00/10] The final building block for a faster rebase -i Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-28 21:31       ` [PATCH v4 01/10] t3415: verify that an empty instructionFormat is handled as before Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-28 21:31       ` [PATCH v4 02/10] rebase -i: generate the script via rebase--helper Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-26  3:15         ` Liam Beguin
2017-05-29 10:59           ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-30 15:57             ` liam Beguin
2017-05-30 18:19           ` liam Beguin
2017-05-29  6:07         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-29 10:54           ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-30  4:57             ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-30 14:59               ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-30 15:08               ` revision API design, was " Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-30 22:53                 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-06-01  6:48                   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-04-28 21:31       ` [PATCH v4 03/10] rebase -i: remove useless indentation Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-26  3:15         ` Liam Beguin
2017-05-26 17:50           ` Stefan Beller
2017-05-27  3:15             ` liam Beguin
2017-04-28 21:32       ` [PATCH v4 04/10] rebase -i: do not invent onelines when expanding/collapsing SHA-1s Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-28 21:32       ` [PATCH v4 05/10] rebase -i: also expand/collapse the SHA-1s via the rebase--helper Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-26  3:15         ` Liam Beguin
2017-05-29 11:20           ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-28 21:32       ` [PATCH v4 06/10] t3404: relax rebase.missingCommitsCheck tests Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-28 21:32       ` [PATCH v4 07/10] rebase -i: check for missing commits in the rebase--helper Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-28 21:32       ` [PATCH v4 08/10] rebase -i: skip unnecessary picks using " Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-28 21:32       ` [PATCH v4 09/10] t3415: test fixup with wrapped oneline Johannes Schindelin
2017-04-28 21:33       ` [PATCH v4 10/10] rebase -i: rearrange fixup/squash lines using the rebase--helper Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-26  3:16         ` Liam Beguin
2017-05-29 11:26           ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-26  3:15       ` [PATCH v4 00/10] The final building block for a faster rebase -i Liam Beguin
2017-05-27 16:23         ` René Scharfe
2017-05-29 10:51           ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-29 12:50             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2017-05-30 15:44               ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-30 20:22                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-31 18:46                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-29 10:56         ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-29  8:30       ` Junio C Hamano

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