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From: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>,
	Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Derrick Stolee <dstolee@microsoft.com>,
	Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>,
	Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] gitdiffcore doc: mention new preliminary step for rename detection
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 09:44:28 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABPp-BGM8N_PaS_M148DoteO3dHNq+gvmNbigHuHsgkVjocCww@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqo8gt2mxh.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com>

On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 9:03 AM Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com> writes:
>
> >> +Note that when rename detection is on but both copy and break
> >> +detection are off, rename detection adds a preliminary step that first
> >> +checks files with the same basename.  If files with the same basename
> >
> > I find myself wanting a definition of 'basename' here, but perhaps I'm
> > just being pedantic. A quick search clarifies this as a standard term [1]
> > of which I was just ignorant.
> >
> > [1] https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/basename.3.html
> >
> >> +are sufficiently similar, it will mark them as renames and exclude
> >> +them from the later quadratic step (the one that pairwise compares all
> >> +unmatched files to find the "best" matches, determined by the highest
> >> +content similarity).
>
> While I do not think `basename` is unacceptably bad, we should aim
> to do better.  For "direc/tory/hello.txt", both "hello.txt" or
> "hello" are what would come up to people's mind with the technical
> term "basename" (i.e. basename as opposed to dirname, vs basename as
> opposed to filename with .extension).
>
> Avoiding this ambiguity and using a word understandable by those not
> versed well with UNIX/POSIX lingo may be done at the same time,
> hopefully.
>
> For example, can we frame the description around this key sentence:
>
>     The heuristics is based on an observation that a file is often
>     moved across directories while keeping its filename the same.
>
> The term "filename" alone can be ambiguous (i.e. both "hello.txt"
> and "direc/tory/hello.txt" are valid interpretations in the earlier
> example), but in the context of a sentence that talks about "moved
> across directories", the former would become the only valid one.  We
> can even say just "name" and there is no ambiguity in the above "key
> sentence".
>
> Then keeping that in mind, we can rewrite the above you quoted like
> so without going technical and without risking ambiguity, like this:
>
>     ... a preliminary step that checks if files are moved across
>     directories while keeping their filenames the same.  If there is
>     a file added to a directory whose contents is sufficiently
>     similar to a file with the same name that got deleted from a
>     different directory, ...

Nice, I like it!

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-09 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-06 22:52 [PATCH 0/3] Optimization batch 7: use file basenames to guide rename detection Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-06 22:52 ` [PATCH 1/3] diffcore-rename: compute basenames of all source and dest candidates Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-06 22:52 ` [PATCH 2/3] diffcore-rename: complete find_basename_matches() Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-06 22:52 ` [PATCH 3/3] diffcore-rename: guide inexact rename detection based on basenames Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-07 14:38   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-07 19:51     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-08  8:38       ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-08 11:43         ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-08 16:25           ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-08 17:37         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-08 22:00           ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-08 23:43             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-08 23:52               ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-08  8:27     ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-08 11:31       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-08 16:09         ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-07  5:19 ` [PATCH 0/3] Optimization batch 7: use file basenames to guide rename detection Junio C Hamano
2021-02-07  6:05   ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-09 11:32 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-09 11:32   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] diffcore-rename: compute basenames of all source and dest candidates Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-09 13:17     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-09 16:56       ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-09 17:02         ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-09 17:42           ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-09 11:32   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] diffcore-rename: complete find_basename_matches() Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-09 13:25     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-09 17:17       ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-09 17:34         ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-09 11:32   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] diffcore-rename: guide inexact rename detection based on basenames Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-09 13:33     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-09 17:41       ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-09 18:59         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-09 11:32   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] gitdiffcore doc: mention new preliminary step for rename detection Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-09 12:59     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-09 17:03       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-09 17:44         ` Elijah Newren [this message]
2021-02-10 15:15   ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Optimization batch 7: use file basenames to guide " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-10 15:15     ` [PATCH v3 1/5] t4001: add a test comparing basename similarity and content similarity Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-13  1:15       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-13  4:50         ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-13 23:56           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-14  1:24             ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-14  1:32               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-14  3:14                 ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-10 15:15     ` [PATCH v3 2/5] diffcore-rename: compute basenames of all source and dest candidates Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-13  1:32       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-10 15:15     ` [PATCH v3 3/5] diffcore-rename: complete find_basename_matches() Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-13  1:48       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-13 18:34         ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-13 23:55           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-14  3:08             ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-10 15:15     ` [PATCH v3 4/5] diffcore-rename: guide inexact rename detection based on basenames Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-13  1:49       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-10 15:15     ` [PATCH v3 5/5] gitdiffcore doc: mention new preliminary step for rename detection Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-10 16:41       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-10 17:20         ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-11  8:15     ` [PATCH v4 0/6] Optimization batch 7: use file basenames to guide " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-11  8:15       ` [PATCH v4 1/6] t4001: add a test comparing basename similarity and content similarity Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-11  8:15       ` [PATCH v4 2/6] diffcore-rename: compute basenames of all source and dest candidates Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-11  8:15       ` [PATCH v4 3/6] diffcore-rename: complete find_basename_matches() Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-11  8:15       ` [PATCH v4 4/6] diffcore-rename: guide inexact rename detection based on basenames Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-11  8:15       ` [PATCH v4 5/6] gitdiffcore doc: mention new preliminary step for rename detection Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-11  8:15       ` [PATCH v4 6/6] merge-ort: call diffcore_rename() directly Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-13  1:53       ` [PATCH v4 0/6] Optimization batch 7: use file basenames to guide rename detection Junio C Hamano
2021-02-14  7:51       ` [PATCH v5 " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-14  7:51         ` [PATCH v5 1/6] t4001: add a test comparing basename similarity and content similarity Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-14  7:51         ` [PATCH v5 2/6] diffcore-rename: compute basenames of source and dest candidates Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-14  7:51         ` [PATCH v5 3/6] diffcore-rename: complete find_basename_matches() Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-14  7:51         ` [PATCH v5 4/6] diffcore-rename: guide inexact rename detection based on basenames Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-14  7:51         ` [PATCH v5 5/6] gitdiffcore doc: mention new preliminary step for rename detection Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-14  7:51         ` [PATCH v5 6/6] merge-ort: call diffcore_rename() directly Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget

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