From: ankostis <ankostis@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>, David Lang <david@lang.hm>,
Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
Joey Hess <id@joeyh.name>,
"git@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: SHA1 collisions found
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 21:05:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+dhYEVOyACM9ARP2deKVLm1hHOVsTah1WfGoNzGGKO6CGrQpw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqq7f4f4cqg.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com>
On 24 February 2017 at 20:20, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com> writes:
>
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> you are inviting people to start using
>>>
>>> md5,54ddf8d47340e048166c45f439ce65fd
>>>
>>> as object names.
>>
>> which might even be okay for specific subsets of operations.
>> (e.g. all local work including staging things, making local "fixup" commits)
>>
>> The addressing scheme should not be too hardcoded, we should rather
>> treat it similar to the cipher schemes in pgp. The additional complexity that
>> we have is the longevity of existence of things, though.
>
> The not-so-well-hidden agenda was exactly that we _SHOULD_ not
> mimick PGP. They do not have a requirement to encourage everybody
> to use the same thing because each message is encrypted/signed
> independently, i.e. they do not have to chain things like we do.
But there is a scenario where supporting more hashes, in parallel, is
beneficial:
Let's assume that git is retroffited to always support the "default"
SHA-3, but support additionally more hash-funcs.
If in the future SHA-3 also gets defeated, it would be highly unlikely
that the same math would also break e.g. Blake.
So certain high-profile repos might choose for extra security 2 or more hashes.
Apologies if I'm misusing the list,
Kostis
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-02-24 20:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 136+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-23 16:43 SHA1 collisions found Joey Hess
2017-02-23 17:00 ` David Lang
2017-02-23 17:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-23 17:12 ` David Lang
2017-02-23 20:49 ` Jakub Narębski
2017-02-23 20:57 ` Jeff King
2017-02-23 17:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-23 17:35 ` Joey Hess
2017-02-23 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-23 18:21 ` Joey Hess
2017-02-23 18:31 ` Joey Hess
2017-02-23 19:13 ` Morten Welinder
2017-02-24 15:52 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-23 18:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-23 18:46 ` Jeff King
2017-02-23 19:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-23 19:32 ` Jeff King
2017-02-23 19:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-23 19:57 ` Jeff King
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.20.1702231428540.30435@i7.lan>
2017-02-23 22:43 ` Jeff King
2017-02-23 22:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-23 23:05 ` Jeff King
2017-02-23 23:05 ` [PATCH 1/3] add collision-detecting sha1 implementation Jeff King
2017-02-23 23:15 ` Stefan Beller
2017-02-24 0:01 ` Jeff King
2017-02-24 0:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-24 0:16 ` Jeff King
2017-02-23 23:05 ` [PATCH 2/3] sha1dc: adjust header includes for git Jeff King
2017-02-23 23:06 ` [PATCH 3/3] Makefile: add USE_SHA1DC knob Jeff King
2017-02-24 18:36 ` HW42
2017-02-24 18:57 ` Jeff King
2017-02-23 23:14 ` SHA1 collisions found Linus Torvalds
2017-02-28 18:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-28 19:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-28 19:20 ` Jeff King
2017-03-01 8:57 ` Dan Shumow
2017-02-28 19:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-28 19:52 ` Shawn Pearce
2017-02-28 22:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-28 21:22 ` Dan Shumow
2017-02-28 22:50 ` Marc Stevens
2017-02-28 23:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-03-01 19:05 ` Jeff King
2017-02-23 20:47 ` Øyvind A. Holm
2017-02-23 20:46 ` Joey Hess
2017-02-23 18:42 ` Jeff King
2017-02-23 17:52 ` David Lang
2017-02-23 19:20 ` David Lang
2017-02-23 17:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-23 17:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-23 18:10 ` Joey Hess
2017-02-23 18:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-23 18:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-24 9:42 ` Duy Nguyen
2017-02-25 19:04 ` brian m. carlson
2017-02-27 13:29 ` René Scharfe
2017-02-28 13:25 ` brian m. carlson
2017-02-24 15:13 ` Ian Jackson
2017-02-24 17:04 ` ankostis
2017-02-24 17:23 ` Jason Cooper
2017-02-25 23:22 ` ankostis
2017-02-24 17:32 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-24 17:45 ` David Lang
2017-02-24 18:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-24 18:58 ` Stefan Beller
2017-02-24 19:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-24 20:05 ` ankostis [this message]
2017-02-24 20:32 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-25 0:31 ` ankostis
2017-02-26 0:16 ` Jason Cooper
2017-02-26 17:38 ` brian m. carlson
2017-02-26 19:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-26 21:38 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-02-26 21:52 ` Jeff King
2017-02-27 13:00 ` Transition plan for git to move to a new hash function Ian Jackson
2017-02-27 14:37 ` Why BLAKE2? Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-02-27 15:42 ` Ian Jackson
2017-02-27 19:26 ` Transition plan for git to move to a new hash function Tony Finch
2017-02-28 21:47 ` brian m. carlson
2017-03-02 18:13 ` Ian Jackson
2017-03-04 22:49 ` brian m. carlson
2017-03-05 13:45 ` Ian Jackson
2017-03-05 23:45 ` brian m. carlson
2017-02-24 20:05 ` SHA1 collisions found Junio C Hamano
2017-02-24 20:33 ` Philip Oakley
2017-02-24 23:39 ` Jeff King
2017-02-25 0:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-25 0:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-25 1:16 ` Jeff King
2017-02-26 18:55 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-25 6:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-26 1:13 ` Jason Cooper
2017-02-26 5:18 ` Jeff King
2017-02-26 18:30 ` brian m. carlson
2017-03-02 21:46 ` Brandon Williams
2017-03-03 11:13 ` Jeff King
2017-03-03 14:54 ` Ian Jackson
2017-03-03 22:18 ` Jeff King
2017-03-02 19:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-03-02 20:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-02 21:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-03-02 21:54 ` Joey Hess
2017-03-02 22:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-03-03 1:50 ` Mike Hommey
2017-03-03 2:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-03-03 11:04 ` Jeff King
2017-03-03 21:47 ` Stefan Beller
2017-02-25 1:00 ` David Lang
2017-02-25 1:15 ` Stefan Beller
2017-02-25 1:21 ` Jeff King
2017-02-25 1:39 ` David Lang
2017-02-25 1:47 ` Jeff King
2017-02-25 1:56 ` David Lang
2017-02-25 2:28 ` Jacob Keller
2017-02-25 2:26 ` Jacob Keller
2017-02-25 5:39 ` grarpamp
2017-02-24 23:43 ` Ian Jackson
2017-02-25 0:06 ` Ian Jackson
2017-02-25 18:50 ` brian m. carlson
2017-02-25 19:26 ` Jeff King
2017-02-25 22:09 ` Mike Hommey
2017-02-26 17:38 ` brian m. carlson
2017-02-24 22:47 ` Jakub Narębski
2017-02-24 22:53 ` Santiago Torres
2017-02-24 23:05 ` Jakub Narębski
2017-02-24 23:24 ` Øyvind A. Holm
2017-02-24 23:06 ` Jeff King
2017-02-24 23:35 ` Jakub Narębski
2017-02-25 22:35 ` Lars Schneider
2017-02-26 0:46 ` Jeff King
2017-02-26 18:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-26 18:57 ` Thomas Braun
2017-02-26 21:30 ` Jeff King
2017-02-27 9:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-27 10:43 ` Jeff King
2017-02-27 12:39 ` Morten Welinder
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