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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>
Cc: "Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Johannes Schindelin" <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>,
	"SZEDER Gábor" <szeder.dev@gmail.com>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
	git-packagers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can we just get rid of kwset & obstack in favor of optimistically using PCRE v2 JIT?
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2019 00:14:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r27u8pie.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190615191514.GD8616@genre.crustytoothpaste.net>


On Sat, Jun 15 2019, brian m. carlson wrote:

> On 2019-06-14 at 22:55:17, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>> It seems most packagers build with PCRE v2 now (CC:
>> git-packagers@). I.e. we'd keep something like compile_fixed_regexp()
>> (and as an aside just use PCRE's \Q...\E instead of our own escaping).
>>
>> We'd have performance regression for platforms that use kwset() now but
>> don't build pcre2, or where pcre2 jit doesn't work. Does anyone care?
>
> I know that there are people shipping newer versions of Git using CentOS
> 6, which IIRC doesn't ship PCRE 2[0]. Since having to ship your own PCRE
> is a security maintenance nightmare, it's probably best to leave this at
> least compatible with non-PCRE 2 systems until November 2020. At that
> point, I'm happy to drop support for it.
>
> If it would work but just be slower with PCRE 1, I'm not too terribly
> concerned. Let that be an incentive to users to upgrade.

Not just PCRE, but if you don't have PCRE at all things would still work
perfectly fine.

I.e. all we're talking about is how to treat this internal
optimization. If we'd never imported kwset we'd still be perfectly
capable of searching for fixed strings with grep/pickaxe, it would have
just been slower.

So platforms that don't have PCRE at all would be slowed down by
something like what the benchmark in my
https://public-inbox.org/git/87v9x793qi.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com/
upthread shows.

Or not, maybe their C library POSIX regcomp()/regexec() is faster.

Platforms that do have PCRE would be faster than they are now, and we
could stop shipping this kwset code.

The *only* case where what I've outlined above isn't true is cases where
the pattern being matched has a \0. See my 966be95549 ("grep: add tests
to fix blind spots with \0 patterns", 2017-05-20) for how that behaves.

There our current behavior is IMNSHO insane, and is certainly
undocumented and unreliable (i.e. it behaves differently if you
e.g. have non-ASCII along with \0 in the pattern, none of this is
documented).

Having poked a bit at that I think the only sane thing there is to just
outright die unless you have PCRE v2, which is the only backend we have
that has any hope of handling that sanely.

> Also, as Carlos pointed out, not all platforms will have the JIT support
> functional, such as OpenBSD, NetBSD, and PaX Linux systems. That may be
> more of a blocker than the CentOS issue, especially since people run PaX
> kernels with standard distros.
>
> [0] I'm not certain because CentOS 6 Docker images segfault on newer
> kernels and I'm too lazy to download a live CD image for testing.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-15 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-13 11:49 [PATCH 0/4] Support building with GCC v8.x/v9.x Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-06-13 11:49 ` [PATCH 1/4] poll (mingw): allow compiling with GCC 8 and DEVELOPER=1 Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-06-13 11:49 ` [PATCH 2/4] kwset: allow building with GCC 8 Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-06-13 16:11   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-14  9:53   ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-06-14 10:00     ` [RFC/PATCH v1 0/4] compat/obstack: update from upstream SZEDER Gábor
2019-06-14 10:00       ` [PATCH v1 1/4] " SZEDER Gábor
2019-06-14 10:00       ` [PATCH v1 2/4] SQUASH??? compat/obstack: fix portability issues SZEDER Gábor
2019-06-14 10:00       ` [PATCH v1 3/4] SQUASH??? compat/obstack: fix build errors with Clang SZEDER Gábor
2019-06-14 10:00       ` [PATCH v1 4/4] compat/obstack: fix some sparse warnings SZEDER Gábor
2019-06-14 17:57       ` [RFC/PATCH v1 0/4] compat/obstack: update from upstream Jeff King
2019-06-14 18:19       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-14 20:30       ` Ramsay Jones
2019-06-14 21:24         ` Ramsay Jones
2019-06-17 18:36         ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-06-14 16:12     ` [PATCH 2/4] kwset: allow building with GCC 8 Junio C Hamano
2019-06-17 18:26       ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-06-14 22:09   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-14 22:55   ` Can we just get rid of kwset & obstack in favor of optimistically using PCRE v2 JIT? Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-14 23:19     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 10:35       ` Jeff King
2019-06-15  9:01     ` Carlo Arenas
2019-06-15 19:15     ` brian m. carlson
2019-06-15 22:14       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2019-06-26  0:03         ` [RFC/PATCH 0/7] grep: move from kwset to optional PCRE v2 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-26 14:02           ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-06-27  9:16             ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-06-27 16:27               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-27 18:21                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-06-27 23:39           ` [PATCH v2 0/9] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-28  7:23             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-28 16:10               ` Junio C Hamano
2019-07-01 21:20             ` [PATCH v3 00/10] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-07-01 21:31               ` Junio C Hamano
2019-07-02 11:10                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-07-02 12:32               ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-07-02 19:57                 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-07-03 10:08                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-07-03 10:25                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-07-03 11:27                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-07-01 21:20             ` [PATCH v3 01/10] log tests: test regex backends in "--encode=<enc>" tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-07-01 21:20             ` [PATCH v3 02/10] grep: don't use PCRE2?_UTF8 with "log --encoding=<non-utf8>" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-07-01 21:20             ` [PATCH v3 03/10] t4210: skip more command-line encoding tests on MinGW Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-07-01 21:20             ` [PATCH v3 04/10] grep: inline the return value of a function call used only once Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-07-01 21:20             ` [PATCH v3 05/10] grep tests: move "grep binary" alongside the rest Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-07-01 21:20             ` [PATCH v3 06/10] grep tests: move binary pattern tests into their own file Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-07-01 21:20             ` [PATCH v3 07/10] grep: make the behavior for NUL-byte in patterns sane Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-07-01 21:20             ` [PATCH v3 08/10] grep: drop support for \0 in --fixed-strings <pattern> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-07-01 21:20             ` [PATCH v3 09/10] grep: remove the kwset optimization Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-07-01 21:21             ` [PATCH v3 10/10] grep: use PCRE v2 for optimized fixed-string search Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-27 23:39           ` [PATCH v2 1/9] log tests: test regex backends in "--encode=<enc>" tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-27 23:39           ` [PATCH v2 2/9] grep: don't use PCRE2?_UTF8 with "log --encoding=<non-utf8>" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-27 23:39           ` [PATCH v2 3/9] grep: inline the return value of a function call used only once Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-27 23:39           ` [PATCH v2 4/9] grep tests: move "grep binary" alongside the rest Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-27 23:39           ` [PATCH v2 5/9] grep tests: move binary pattern tests into their own file Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-27 23:39           ` [PATCH v2 6/9] grep: make the behavior for NUL-byte in patterns sane Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-27 23:39           ` [PATCH v2 7/9] grep: drop support for \0 in --fixed-strings <pattern> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-27 23:39           ` [PATCH v2 8/9] grep: remove the kwset optimization Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-27 23:39           ` [PATCH v2 9/9] grep: use PCRE v2 for optimized fixed-string search Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-26  0:03         ` [RFC/PATCH 1/7] grep: inline the return value of a function call used only once Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-26  0:03         ` [RFC/PATCH 2/7] grep tests: move "grep binary" alongside the rest Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-26 14:05           ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-06-26 18:13           ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-26  0:03         ` [RFC/PATCH 3/7] grep tests: move binary pattern tests into their own file Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-26  0:03         ` [RFC/PATCH 4/7] grep: make the behavior for \0 in patterns sane Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-27  2:03           ` brian m. carlson
2019-06-26  0:03         ` [RFC/PATCH 5/7] grep: drop support for \0 in --fixed-strings <pattern> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-26 16:14           ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-26  0:03         ` [RFC/PATCH 6/7] grep: remove the kwset optimization Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-26  0:03         ` [RFC/PATCH 7/7] grep: use PCRE v2 for optimized fixed-string search Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-26 14:13           ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-06-26 18:45             ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-27  9:31               ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-06-27 18:45                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-06-27 19:06                   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-28 10:56                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-06-13 11:49 ` [PATCH 3/4] winansi: simplify loading the GetCurrentConsoleFontEx() function Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-06-13 11:49 ` [PATCH 4/4] config: avoid calling `labs()` on too-large data type Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-06-13 16:13   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-16  6:48   ` René Scharfe
2019-06-16  8:24     ` René Scharfe
2019-06-16 14:01       ` René Scharfe
2019-06-16 22:26         ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-20 19:58           ` René Scharfe
2019-06-20 21:07             ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-21 18:35             ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-06-22 10:03               ` René Scharfe
2019-06-22 10:03           ` [PATCH v2 1/3] config: use unsigned_mult_overflows to check for overflows René Scharfe
2019-06-22 10:03           ` [PATCH v2 2/3] config: don't multiply in parse_unit_factor() René Scharfe
2019-06-22 10:03           ` [PATCH v2 3/3] config: simplify parsing of unit factors René Scharfe

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