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From: Lars Schneider <larsxschneider@gmail.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Torsten Bögershausen" <tboegi@web.de>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Jakub Narębski" <jnareb@gmail.com>,
	mlbright@gmail.com, e@80x24.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 11/12] convert: add filter.<driver>.process option
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 13:55:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87D4BF17-67BB-4AFA-9B27-40DBB44C0456@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160805222710.chefh5kiktyzketh@sigill.intra.peff.net>


> On 06 Aug 2016, at 00:27, Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Aug 05, 2016 at 03:06:28PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> 
>> Torsten Bögershausen <tboegi@web.de> writes:
>> 
>>> On 2016-08-03 18.42, larsxschneider@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> The filter is expected to respond with the result content in zero
>>>> or more pkt-line packets and a flush packet at the end. Finally, a
>>>> "result=success" packet is expected if everything went well.
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> packet:          git< SMUDGED_CONTENT
>>>> packet:          git< 0000
>>>> packet:          git< result=success\n
>>>> ------------------------
>>> I would really send the diagnostics/return codes before the content.
>> 
>> I smell the assumption "by the time the filter starts output, it
>> must have finished everything and knows both size and the status".
>> 
>> I'd prefer to have a protocol that allows us to do streaming I/O on
>> both ends when possible, even if the initial version of the filters
>> (and the code that sits on the Git side) hold everything in-core
>> before starting to talk.
> 
> I think you really want to handle both cases:
> 
>  - the server says "no, I can't fulfill your request" (e.g., HTTP 404)

You can do this with the current protocol:

packet:          git< 0000
packet:          git< result=reject\n

Admittedly the flush packet could be consider overhead but I think
that is neglectable.


>  - the server can abort an in-progress response to indicate that it
>    could not be fulfilled completely (in HTTP chunked encoding, this
>    requires hanging up before sending the final EOF chunk)

Also already supported with the following sequence:

packet:          git< HALF_WRITTEN_ERRONEOUS_CONTENT
packet:          git< 0000
packet:          git< result=error\n


> If we expect the second case to be rare, then hanging up before sending
> the flush packet is probably OK. But we could also have a trailing error
> code after the data to say "ignore that, we saw an error, but I can
> still handle more requests".
> 
> It is true that you don't need the up-front status code in that case
> (you can send an empty body and say "ignore that, we saw an error") but
> that feels a little weird.

I understand your argument. However, I think "0000" indicates 
"I have nothing for you" and therefore I think it would be OK in the
reject case.


> And I expect it makes the lives of the client
> easier to get a code up front, before it starts taking steps to handle
> what it _thinks_ is probably a valid response.

I am not sure I can follow you here. Which actor are you referring to when
you write "client" -- Git, right? If the response is rejected right away
then Git just needs to read a single flush. If the response experiences
an error only later, then the filter wouldn't know about the error when
it starts sending. Therefore I don't see how an error code up front could
make it easier for Git.

- Lars



  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-06 20:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20160727000605.49982-1-larsxschneider%40gmail.com/>
2016-07-29 23:37 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] Git filter protocol larsxschneider
2016-07-29 23:37   ` [PATCH v3 01/10] pkt-line: extract set_packet_header() larsxschneider
2016-07-30 10:30     ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-01 11:33       ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-03 20:05         ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-05 11:52           ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-29 23:37   ` [PATCH v3 02/10] pkt-line: add direct_packet_write() and direct_packet_write_data() larsxschneider
2016-07-30 10:49     ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-01 12:00       ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-03 20:12         ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-05 12:02           ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-29 23:37   ` [PATCH v3 03/10] pkt-line: add packet_flush_gentle() larsxschneider
2016-07-30 12:04     ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-01 12:28       ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-31 20:36     ` Torstem Bögershausen
2016-07-31 21:45       ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-02 19:56         ` Torsten Bögershausen
2016-08-05  9:59           ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-29 23:37   ` [PATCH v3 04/10] pkt-line: call packet_trace() only if a packet is actually send larsxschneider
2016-07-30 12:29     ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-01 12:18       ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-03 20:15         ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-29 23:37   ` [PATCH v3 05/10] pack-protocol: fix maximum pkt-line size larsxschneider
2016-07-30 13:58     ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-01 12:23       ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-29 23:37   ` [PATCH v3 06/10] run-command: add clean_on_exit_handler larsxschneider
2016-07-30  9:50     ` Johannes Sixt
2016-08-01 11:14       ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-02  5:53         ` Johannes Sixt
2016-08-02  7:41           ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-29 23:37   ` [PATCH v3 07/10] convert: quote filter names in error messages larsxschneider
2016-07-29 23:37   ` [PATCH v3 08/10] convert: modernize tests larsxschneider
2016-07-29 23:38   ` [PATCH v3 09/10] convert: generate large test files only once larsxschneider
2016-07-29 23:38   ` [PATCH v3 10/10] convert: add filter.<driver>.process option larsxschneider
2016-07-30 22:05     ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-31  9:42       ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-31 19:49         ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-31 22:59           ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-01 13:32       ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-03 18:30         ` Designing the filter process protocol (was: Re: [PATCH v3 10/10] convert: add filter.<driver>.process option) Jakub Narębski
2016-08-05 10:32           ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-06 18:24           ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-03 22:47         ` [PATCH v3 10/10] convert: add filter.<driver>.process option Jakub Narębski
2016-07-31 22:19     ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-01 17:55       ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-04  0:42         ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-03 13:10       ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-04 10:18         ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-05 13:20           ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-03 16:42   ` [PATCH v4 00/12] Git filter protocol larsxschneider
2016-08-03 16:42     ` [PATCH v4 01/12] pkt-line: extract set_packet_header() larsxschneider
2016-08-03 20:18       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-03 21:12         ` Jeff King
2016-08-03 21:27           ` Jeff King
2016-08-04 16:14           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-05 14:55             ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-05 16:31               ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-05 17:31             ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-05 17:41               ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-03 21:56         ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-03 16:42     ` [PATCH v4 02/12] pkt-line: add direct_packet_write() and direct_packet_write_data() larsxschneider
2016-08-03 16:42     ` [PATCH v4 03/12] pkt-line: add packet_flush_gentle() larsxschneider
2016-08-03 21:39       ` Jeff King
2016-08-03 22:56         ` [PATCH 0/7] minor trace fixes and cosmetic improvements Jeff King
2016-08-03 22:56           ` [PATCH 1/7] trace: handle NULL argument in trace_disable() Jeff King
2016-08-03 22:58           ` [PATCH 2/7] trace: stop using write_or_whine_pipe() Jeff King
2016-08-03 22:58           ` [PATCH 3/7] trace: use warning() for printing trace errors Jeff King
2016-08-04 20:41             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-04 21:21               ` Jeff King
2016-08-04 21:28                 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-05  7:56                   ` Jeff King
2016-08-05  7:59                   ` Christian Couder
2016-08-05 18:41                     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-03 23:00           ` [PATCH 4/7] trace: cosmetic fixes for error messages Jeff King
2016-08-04 20:42             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-05  8:00               ` Jeff King
2016-08-03 23:00           ` [PATCH 5/7] trace: correct variable name in write() error message Jeff King
2016-08-03 23:01           ` [PATCH 6/7] trace: disable key after write error Jeff King
2016-08-04 20:45             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-04 21:22               ` Jeff King
2016-08-05  7:58                 ` Jeff King
2016-08-03 23:01           ` [PATCH 7/7] write_or_die: drop write_or_whine_pipe() Jeff King
2016-08-03 23:04           ` [PATCH 0/7] minor trace fixes and cosmetic improvements Jeff King
2016-08-04 16:16         ` [PATCH v4 03/12] pkt-line: add packet_flush_gentle() Junio C Hamano
2016-08-03 16:42     ` [PATCH v4 04/12] pkt-line: call packet_trace() only if a packet is actually send larsxschneider
2016-08-03 16:42     ` [PATCH v4 05/12] pkt-line: add functions to read/write flush terminated packet streams larsxschneider
2016-08-03 16:42     ` [PATCH v4 06/12] pack-protocol: fix maximum pkt-line size larsxschneider
2016-08-03 16:42     ` [PATCH v4 07/12] run-command: add clean_on_exit_handler larsxschneider
2016-08-03 21:24       ` Jeff King
2016-08-03 22:15         ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-03 22:53           ` Jeff King
2016-08-03 23:09             ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-03 23:15               ` Jeff King
2016-08-05 13:08                 ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-05 21:19                   ` Torsten Bögershausen
2016-08-05 21:50                     ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-03 16:42     ` [PATCH v4 08/12] convert: quote filter names in error messages larsxschneider
2016-08-03 16:42     ` [PATCH v4 09/12] convert: modernize tests larsxschneider
2016-08-03 16:42     ` [PATCH v4 10/12] convert: generate large test files only once larsxschneider
2016-08-03 16:42     ` [PATCH v4 11/12] convert: add filter.<driver>.process option larsxschneider
2016-08-03 17:45       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-03 21:48         ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-03 22:46           ` Jeff King
2016-08-05 12:53             ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-03 20:29       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-03 21:37         ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-03 21:43           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-03 22:01             ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-05 21:34       ` Torsten Bögershausen
2016-08-05 21:49         ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-05 22:06         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-05 22:27           ` Jeff King
2016-08-06 11:55             ` Lars Schneider [this message]
2016-08-06 12:14               ` Jeff King
2016-08-06 18:19                 ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-08 15:02                   ` Jeff King
2016-08-08 16:21                     ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-08 16:26                       ` Jeff King
2016-08-06 20:40           ` Torsten Bögershausen
2016-08-03 16:42     ` [PATCH v4 12/12] convert: add filter.<driver>.process shutdown command option larsxschneider

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