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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>
Cc: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: scripting speedups [was: [Summit topic] Crazy (and not so crazy) ideas]
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2021 21:58:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <211030.86ee8246hy.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211026201448.GA29480@dcvr>


On Tue, Oct 26 2021, Eric Wong wrote:

> Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
>> * Test suite is slow. Shell scripts and process forking.
>> 
>>    * What if we had a special shell that interpreted the commands in a
>>      single process?
>> 
>>    * Even Git commands like rev-parse and hash-object, as long as that’s
>>      not the command you’re trying to test
>
> This is something I've wanted in a very long time as a scripter.
> fast-import has been great over the years, as is
> "cat-file --batch(-check)", but there's gaps should be filled
> (preferably without fragile linkage of shared libraries into a
> script process)
>
>>    * Dscho wants to slip in a C-based solution
>> 
>>    * Jonathan tan commented: going back to your custom shell for tests
>>      idea, one thing we could do is have a custom command that generates
>>      the repo commits that we want (and that saves process spawns and
>>      might make the tests simpler too)
>
> Perhaps a not-seriously-proposed patch from 2006 could be
> modernized for our now-libified internals:

I think something very short of a "C-based solution" could give us most
of the wins here. Johannes was probably thinking of the scripting being
slow on Windows aspect of it.

But the main benefit of hypothetical C-based testing is that you can
connect it to the dependency tree we have in the Makefile, and only
re-run tests for code you needed to re-compile.

So e.g. we don't need to run tests that invoke "git tag" if the
dependency graph of builtin/tag.c didn't change.

With COMPUTE_HEADER_DEPENDENCIES we've got access to that dependency
information for our C code.

With trace2 we could record an initial test run, and know which built-in
commands are executed by which tests (even down to the sub-test level).

Connecting these two means that we can find all tests that say run "git
fsck", and if builtin/fsck.c is the only thing that changed in an
interactive rebase, that's the only tests we need to run.

Of course changes to things like cache.h or t/test-lib.sh would spoil
that cache entirely, but pretty much the same is true for re-compiling
things now, so would changing say builtin/init-db.c, as almost every
test does a "git init" somewhere.

But I think that approch is viable, and should take us from a huge
hypothetical project like "rewrite all the tests in C" to something
that's a viable weekend hacking project for someone who's interested.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-30 20:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-21 11:55 Notes from the Git Contributors' Summit 2021, virtual, Oct 19/20 Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:55 ` [Summit topic] Crazy (and not so crazy) ideas Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 12:30   ` Son Luong Ngoc
2021-10-26 20:14   ` scripting speedups [was: [Summit topic] Crazy (and not so crazy) ideas] Eric Wong
2021-10-30 19:58     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2021-11-03  9:24       ` test suite speedups via some not-so-crazy ideas (was: scripting speedups[...]) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-03 22:12         ` test suite speedups via some not-so-crazy ideas Junio C Hamano
2021-11-02 13:52     ` scripting speedups [was: [Summit topic] Crazy (and not so crazy) ideas] Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:55 ` [Summit topic] SHA-256 Updates Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Server-side merge/rebase: needs and wants? Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22  3:06   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-10-22 10:01     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-23 20:52       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-08 18:21   ` Taylor Blau
2021-11-09  2:15     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-30 10:06       ` Christian Couder
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Submodules and how to make them worth using Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Sparse checkout behavior and plans Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] The state of getting a reftable backend working in git.git Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-25 19:00   ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2021-10-25 22:09     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-26  8:12       ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2021-10-28 14:17         ` Philip Oakley
2021-10-26 15:51       ` Philip Oakley
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Documentation (translations, FAQ updates, new user-focused, general improvements, etc.) Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22 14:20   ` Jean-Noël Avila
2021-10-22 14:31     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-27  7:02       ` Jean-Noël Avila
2021-10-27  8:50       ` Jeff King
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Increasing diversity & inclusion (transition to `main`, etc) Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 12:55   ` Son Luong Ngoc
2021-10-22 10:02     ` vale check, was " Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22 10:03       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:57 ` [Summit topic] Improving Git UX Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 16:45   ` changing the experimental 'git switch' (was: [Summit topic] Improving Git UX) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-21 23:03     ` changing the experimental 'git switch' Junio C Hamano
2021-10-22  3:33     ` changing the experimental 'git switch' (was: [Summit topic] Improving Git UX) Bagas Sanjaya
2021-10-22 14:04     ` martin
2021-10-22 14:24       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-22 15:30         ` martin
2021-10-23  8:27           ` changing the experimental 'git switch' Sergey Organov
2021-10-22 21:54         ` Sergey Organov
2021-10-24  6:54       ` changing the experimental 'git switch' (was: [Summit topic] Improving Git UX) Martin
2021-10-24 20:27         ` changing the experimental 'git switch' Junio C Hamano
2021-10-25 12:48           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-25 17:06             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-25 16:44     ` Sergey Organov
2021-10-25 22:23       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-27 18:54         ` Sergey Organov
2021-10-21 11:57 ` [Summit topic] Improving reviewer quality of life (patchwork, subsystem lists?, etc) Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 13:41   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-10-22 22:06     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-22  8:02 ` Missing notes, was Re: Notes from the Git Contributors' Summit 2021, virtual, Oct 19/20 Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22  8:22   ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22  8:30     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22  9:07       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22  9:44 ` Let's have public Git chalk talks, " Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-25 12:58   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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