From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Danh Doan <congdanhqx@gmail.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] sequencer: reencode to utf-8 before arrange rebase's todo list
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 23:03:14 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191106040314.GA4307@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqftj1yeo5.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com>
On Wed, Nov 06, 2019 at 10:30:34AM +0900, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> > That's normally what we do. The only cases we're covering here are when
> > somebody has explicitly asked that the commit object be stored in
> > another encoding. Presumably they'd also be using a matching
> > i18n.logOutputEncoding in that case, in which case logmsg_reencode()
> > would be a noop. I think the only reasons to do that are:
> >
> > 1. You're stuck on some legacy encoding for your terminal. But in that
> > case, I think you'd still be better off storing utf-8 and
> > translating on the fly, since whatever encoding you do store is
> > baked into your objects for all time (so accept some slowness now,
> > but eventually move to utf-8).
> >
> > 2. Your preferred language is bigger in utf-8 than in some specific
> > encoding, and you'd rather save some bytes. I'm not sure how big a
> > deal this is, given that commit messages don't tend to be that big
> > in the first place (compared to trees and blobs). And the zlib
> > deflation on the result might help remove some of the redundancy,
> > too.
>
> Perhaps add
>
> 3. You are dealing with a project originated on and migrated
> from a foreign SCM, and older parts of the history is stored
> in a non-utf-8, even though recent history is in utf-8
>
> to the mix?
I would think you'd want to convert to utf-8 as you do the migration in
that case, since you're writing new hashes anyway. But I think a similar
case would just be an old Git repository, where for some reason you
thought i18n.commitEncoding was a good idea back then (perhaps because
you were in situation (1) then, but now you aren't).
In either case, though, I don't think it's a compelling motivation for
optimization, if only because those old commits will be shown less and
less (and even without modern optimizations like commit-graph, we'd
generally avoid reencoding those old commits unless we're actually going
to _show_ them).
> I suspect even the heavy Windows/Mac users in Japan have migrated
> out of legacy (the suspicion comes from an anecdote that is offtopic
> here).
Thanks for the data point. All of this is very far from my personal
experience, so I mostly go on scraps of hearsay I pick up reading this
or that. :)
-Peff
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Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-10-31 9:26 [PATCH 0/3] Linux with musl libc improvement Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-10-31 9:26 ` [PATCH 1/3] t0028: eliminate non-standard usage of printf Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-10-31 17:41 ` Jeff King
2019-11-01 1:33 ` Danh Doan
2019-10-31 19:50 ` brian m. carlson
2019-10-31 9:26 ` [PATCH 2/3] configure.ac: define ICONV_OMITS_BOM if necessary Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-10-31 18:11 ` Jeff King
2019-10-31 20:02 ` brian m. carlson
2019-11-01 1:40 ` Danh Doan
2019-10-31 9:26 ` [PATCH 3/3] sequencer: reencode to utf-8 before arrange rebase's todo list Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-10-31 10:38 ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-10-31 19:26 ` Jeff King
2019-11-01 4:49 ` Danh Doan
2019-11-01 8:25 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Linux with musl libc improvement Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-01 8:25 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] t0028: eliminate non-standard usage of printf Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-01 16:54 ` Jeff King
2019-11-01 8:25 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] configure.ac: define ICONV_OMITS_BOM if necessary Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-01 16:56 ` Jeff King
2019-11-02 0:43 ` Danh Doan
2019-11-01 8:25 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] sequencer: reencode to utf-8 before arrange rebase's todo list Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-01 16:59 ` Jeff King
2019-11-02 1:02 ` Danh Doan
2019-11-02 12:20 ` Danh Doan
2019-11-05 8:00 ` Jeff King
2019-11-06 1:30 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-06 4:03 ` Jeff King [this message]
2019-11-06 10:03 ` Danh Doan
2019-11-07 5:56 ` Jeff King
2019-11-06 9:19 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] Correct internal working and output encoding Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-06 9:19 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] t0028: eliminate non-standard usage of printf Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-06 9:20 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] configure.ac: define ICONV_OMITS_BOM if necessary Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-06 9:20 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] t3900: demonstrate git-rebase problem with multi encoding Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-06 9:20 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] sequencer: reencode to utf-8 before arrange rebase's todo list Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-06 9:20 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] sequencer: reencode revert/cherry-pick's " Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-06 9:20 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] sequencer: reencode squashing commit's message Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-06 9:20 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] sequencer: reencode old merge-commit message Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-06 15:39 ` Eric Sunshine
2019-11-06 9:20 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] sequencer: reencode commit message for am/rebase --show-current-patch Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-07 2:56 ` [PATCH v4 0/8] Correct internal working and output encoding Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-07 2:56 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] t0028: eliminate non-standard usage of printf Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-07 2:56 ` [PATCH v4 2/8] configure.ac: define ICONV_OMITS_BOM if necessary Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-07 6:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-07 2:56 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] t3900: demonstrate git-rebase problem with multi encoding Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-07 6:02 ` Jeff King
2019-11-07 6:48 ` Danh Doan
2019-11-07 8:02 ` Jeff King
2019-11-07 10:51 ` Danh Doan
2019-11-11 8:22 ` Jeff King
2019-11-07 2:56 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] sequencer: reencode to utf-8 before arrange rebase's todo list Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-07 6:04 ` Jeff King
2019-11-07 2:56 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] sequencer: reencode revert/cherry-pick's " Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-07 6:06 ` Jeff King
2019-11-07 2:56 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] sequencer: reencode squashing commit's message Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-07 6:15 ` Jeff King
2019-11-07 2:56 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] sequencer: reencode old merge-commit message Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-07 2:56 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] sequencer: reencode commit message for am/rebase --show-current-patch Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-07 6:32 ` Jeff King
2019-11-07 7:48 ` Danh Doan
2019-11-07 8:03 ` Jeff King
2019-11-07 16:32 ` Danh Doan
2019-11-08 9:43 ` [PATCH v5 0/9] Improve odd encoding integration Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-08 9:43 ` [PATCH v5 1/9] t0028: eliminate non-standard usage of printf Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-08 9:43 ` [PATCH v5 2/9] configure.ac: define ICONV_OMITS_BOM if necessary Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-08 9:43 ` [PATCH v5 3/9] t3900: demonstrate git-rebase problem with multi encoding Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-08 9:43 ` [PATCH v5 4/9] sequencer: reencode to utf-8 before arrange rebase's todo list Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-08 9:43 ` [PATCH v5 5/9] sequencer: reencode revert/cherry-pick's " Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-08 9:43 ` [PATCH v5 6/9] sequencer: reencode squashing commit's message Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-08 9:43 ` [PATCH v5 7/9] sequencer: reencode old merge-commit message Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-08 9:43 ` [PATCH v5 8/9] sequencer: reencode commit message for am/rebase --show-current-patch Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-08 9:43 ` [PATCH v5 9/9] sequencer: fallback to sane label in making rebase todo list Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-11 1:22 ` [PATCH v5 0/9] Improve odd encoding integration Junio C Hamano
2019-11-11 4:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-11 4:43 ` Danh Doan
2019-11-11 6:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-11 6:03 ` [PATCH v6 0/9] sequencer: handle other encoding better Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-11 6:03 ` [PATCH v6 1/9] t0028: eliminate non-standard usage of printf Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-11 6:03 ` [PATCH v6 2/9] configure.ac: define ICONV_OMITS_BOM if necessary Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-11 6:03 ` [PATCH v6 3/9] t3900: demonstrate git-rebase problem with multi encoding Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-11 6:03 ` [PATCH v6 4/9] sequencer: reencode to utf-8 before arrange rebase's todo list Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-11 6:03 ` [PATCH v6 5/9] sequencer: reencode revert/cherry-pick's " Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-11 6:03 ` [PATCH v6 6/9] sequencer: reencode squashing commit's message Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-11 6:03 ` [PATCH v6 7/9] sequencer: reencode old merge-commit message Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-11 6:03 ` [PATCH v6 8/9] sequencer: reencode commit message for am/rebase --show-current-patch Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-11 6:03 ` [PATCH v6 9/9] sequencer: fallback to sane label in making rebase todo list Doan Tran Cong Danh
2019-11-11 8:39 ` Jeff King
2019-11-11 16:22 ` Phillip Wood
2019-11-11 18:26 ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-11-12 4:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-11 8:40 ` [PATCH v6 0/9] sequencer: handle other encoding better Jeff King
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