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From: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>
To: Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de
Cc: jonathantanmy@google.com, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] index-pack: prefetch missing REF_DELTA bases
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 11:28:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190515182812.107420-1-jonathantanmy@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.1905151040240.44@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet>

> > To resolve this, prefetch all missing REF_DELTA bases before attempting
> > to resolve them. This both ensures that all bases are attempted to be
> > fetched, and ensures that we make only one request per index-pack
> > invocation, and not one request per missing object.
> 
> Hmm. I wonder whether this can lead to *really* undesirable behavior, e.g.
> with deep delta chains. The client would possibly have to fetch the
> REF_DELTA object, but that would also be delivered in a thin pack with
> *another* REF_DELTA object, and the same over and over again, with plenty
> of round trips that kill performance really well.

When the client fetches the REF_DELTA base, it won't be a REF_DELTA
object itself because Git makes these fetches without any "have" lines,
so the server doesn't know anything to delta against. Admittedly, this
is just due how to we implemented it - if later we find a way to
optimize the lazy fetches by adding "have", then we'll have to revisit
this.

Quoting from the commit message:

> > (When fetching REF_DELTA bases, it is unlikely that
> > those are REF_DELTA themselves, because we do not send "have" when
> > making such fetches.)

I tried to address this point with this sentence in the commit message.
If you think that this should be addressed more clearly in the commit
message, let me know if you have any suggestions.

> Wouldn't it make more sense to introduce a new term like `promised`
> (instead of `have`)? Both client and server will have to know about this,
> and it would be a new capability, of course, but that way the server could
> know that it has to send the entire delta chain.
> 
> Of course, this would be quite a bit more involved than the current patch
> :-(

I think this can also be solved by omitting "thin-pack". We might want
to do this once we optimize the lazy fetches by adding "have".

Thanks for taking a look at this.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-15 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-14 21:10 [PATCH 0/2] Partial clone fix: handling received REF_DELTA Jonathan Tan
2019-05-14 21:10 ` [PATCH 1/2] t5616: refactor packfile replacement Jonathan Tan
2019-05-15  8:36   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-05-15 18:22     ` Jonathan Tan
2019-05-14 21:10 ` [PATCH 2/2] index-pack: prefetch missing REF_DELTA bases Jonathan Tan
2019-05-15  8:46   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-05-15 18:28     ` Jonathan Tan [this message]
2019-05-17 18:33       ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-05-15 23:16   ` Jeff King
2019-05-16  1:43     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-05-16  4:04       ` Jeff King
2019-05-16 18:26     ` Jonathan Tan
2019-05-16 21:12       ` Jeff King
2019-05-16 21:30         ` Jonathan Tan
2019-05-16 21:42           ` Jeff King
2019-05-16 23:15             ` Jonathan Tan
2019-05-17  1:09               ` Jeff King
2019-05-17  1:22                 ` Jeff King
2019-05-17  4:39                   ` Jeff King
2019-05-17  4:42                     ` Jeff King
2019-05-17  7:20                     ` Duy Nguyen
2019-05-17  8:55                       ` Jeff King
2019-05-18 11:39                         ` Duy Nguyen
2019-05-20 23:04                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2019-05-21 21:20                             ` Jeff King
2019-06-03 22:23   ` Jonathan Nieder

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