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From: Denton Liu <liu.denton@gmail.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] rebase: learn --keep-base
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 10:50:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190326175052.GA14922@dev-l> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bm1xbt55.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com>

Hi Ævar,

On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 03:35:34PM +0100, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Mar 23 2019, Denton Liu wrote:
> 
> > This series teaches rebase the --keep-base option.
> >
> > 'git rebase --keep-base <upstream>' is equivalent to
> > 'git rebase --onto <upstream>... <upstream>' or
> > 'git rebase --onto $(git merge-base <upstream> HEAD) <upstream>' .
> >
> > This seems to be a common case that people (including myself!) run into; I was
> > able to find these StackOverflow posts about this use case:
> >
> > * https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53234798/can-i-rebase-on-a-branchs-fork-point-without-explicitly-specifying-the-parent
> > * https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41529128/how-do-you-rebase-only-changes-between-two-branches-into-another-branch
> > * https://stackoverflow.com/a/4207357
> 
> Like with another series of yours I think this would be best squashed
> into one patch.

Will do.

> 
> Maybe I've misunderstood this but isn't this like --fork-point except
> with just plain "git merge-base" instead of "git merge-base
> --fork-point", but then again 2/3 shows multiple base aren't supported,
> but merge-base supports that.
> 

--fork-point gets used to determine the _set of_ commits which are to be
rebased, whereas --keep-base (and --onto) determine the base where that
set of commits will be spliced. As a result, these two options cover
orthogonal use-cases.

The reason why --keep-base doesn't support multiple bases for the same
reason that --onto already disallows multiple bases. If we have multiple
bases, how do we determine which one is the "true base" to use? It makes
more sense to error out and let the user manually specify it.

> I'd find something like the "DISCUSSION ON FORK-POINT MODE" in
> git-merge-base helpful with examples of what we'd pick in the various
> scenarios, and also if whatever commit this picks was something you
> could have "git merge-base" spew out, so you could get what rebase would
> do here from other tooling (which maybe is possible, but I'm confused by
> the "no multiple bases"...).

If I'm understanding you correctly then yes, this could be done with
other tooling. See the 0/3 for equivalent commands.

Perhaps I should update the rebase documentation to mention that
--fork-point and --keep-base are orthogonal because it's unclear for
you, it's probably unclear for other users as well.

Thanks,

Denton

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-26 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-23 15:25 [PATCH 0/3] rebase: learn --keep-base Denton Liu
2019-03-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 1/3] rebase: teach rebase --keep-base Denton Liu
2019-03-24  3:46   ` Eric Sunshine
2019-03-24 13:20   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-03-25  0:06     ` Denton Liu
2019-03-25  5:41       ` Denton Liu
2019-04-01 10:45         ` Junio C Hamano
2019-03-24 13:37   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-03-25  5:47   ` Denton Liu
2019-03-25 18:50   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-03-25 19:29     ` Denton Liu
2019-03-26 13:27       ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-03-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 2/3] t3416: test " Denton Liu
2019-03-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 3/3] git-rebase.txt: document --keep-base option Denton Liu
2019-03-24 13:15 ` [PATCH 0/3] rebase: learn --keep-base Junio C Hamano
2019-03-25  0:04   ` Denton Liu
2019-04-01 10:45     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-03-26 14:35 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-03-26 17:50   ` Denton Liu [this message]
2019-03-26 20:35     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-03-26 21:30       ` Denton Liu
2019-03-27 15:39         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-03-28 22:17 ` [PATCH v2] rebase: teach rebase --keep-base Denton Liu
2019-03-28 23:13   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-03-29 15:47   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-03-29 17:52     ` Denton Liu
2019-04-01 10:46     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-01 20:51   ` [PATCH v3 0/4] " Denton Liu
2019-04-01 20:51     ` [PATCH v3 1/4] t3431: add rebase --fork-point tests Denton Liu
2019-04-04 20:28       ` Denton Liu
2019-04-05 11:15       ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-04-08  4:38         ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-05 14:55       ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-04-05 17:25         ` Denton Liu
2019-04-05 17:51           ` Johannes Sixt
2019-04-05 18:51             ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-04-05 20:19               ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-04-05 21:10                 ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-04-01 20:51     ` [PATCH v3 2/4] t3432: test rebase fast-forward behavior Denton Liu
2019-04-01 20:52     ` [PATCH v3 3/4] rebase: fast-forward --onto in more cases Denton Liu
2019-04-02  1:25       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-02  1:48         ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-02  4:44           ` Denton Liu
2019-04-01 20:52     ` [PATCH v3 4/4] rebase: teach rebase --keep-base Denton Liu
2019-04-05 21:39     ` [PATCH v4 0/4] " Denton Liu
2019-04-05 21:40       ` [PATCH v4 1/4] t3431: add rebase --fork-point tests Denton Liu
2019-04-05 21:40       ` [PATCH v4 2/4] t3432: test rebase fast-forward behavior Denton Liu
2019-04-05 21:40       ` [PATCH v4 3/4] rebase: fast-forward --onto in more cases Denton Liu
2019-04-05 21:40       ` [PATCH v4 4/4] rebase: teach rebase --keep-base Denton Liu
2019-04-15 22:29       ` [PATCH v5 0/5] " Denton Liu
2019-04-15 22:29         ` [PATCH v5 1/5] t3431: add rebase --fork-point tests Denton Liu
2019-04-15 22:29         ` [PATCH v5 2/5] t3432: test rebase fast-forward behavior Denton Liu
2019-04-15 22:29         ` [PATCH v5 3/5] rebase: fast-forward --onto in more cases Denton Liu
2019-04-16  6:26           ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-16 13:59           ` Phillip Wood
2019-04-17  6:44             ` Denton Liu
2019-04-17 14:14               ` Phillip Wood
2019-04-19 17:08           ` Denton Liu
2019-04-15 22:29         ` [PATCH v5 4/5] rebase: fast-forward --fork-point " Denton Liu
2019-04-15 22:29         ` [PATCH v5 5/5] rebase: teach rebase --keep-base Denton Liu
2019-04-17 18:01       ` [PATCH v6 0/5] " Denton Liu
2019-04-17 18:01         ` [PATCH v6 1/6] t3431: add rebase --fork-point tests Denton Liu
2019-04-17 18:01         ` [PATCH v6 2/6] t3432: test rebase fast-forward behavior Denton Liu
2019-04-17 18:01         ` [PATCH v6 3/6] rebase: refactor can_fast_forward into goto tower Denton Liu
2019-04-17 18:01         ` [PATCH v6 4/6] rebase: fast-forward --onto in more cases Denton Liu
2019-04-17 19:59           ` Phillip Wood
2019-04-17 18:01         ` [PATCH v6 5/6] rebase: fast-forward --fork-point " Denton Liu
2019-04-17 18:01         ` [PATCH v6 6/6] rebase: teach rebase --keep-base Denton Liu
2019-04-21  8:11         ` [PATCH v7 0/6] rebase: learn --keep-base Denton Liu
2019-04-21  8:11           ` [PATCH v7 1/6] t3431: add rebase --fork-point tests Denton Liu
2019-04-23 23:12             ` Denton Liu
2019-04-21  8:11           ` [PATCH v7 2/6] t3432: test rebase fast-forward behavior Denton Liu
2019-04-21  8:11           ` [PATCH v7 3/6] rebase: refactor can_fast_forward into goto tower Denton Liu
2019-04-21  8:11           ` [PATCH v7 4/6] rebase: fast-forward --onto in more cases Denton Liu
2019-04-21  8:11           ` [PATCH v7 5/6] rebase: fast-forward --fork-point " Denton Liu
2019-04-21  8:11           ` [PATCH v7 6/6] rebase: teach rebase --keep-base Denton Liu
2019-05-08  0:12           ` [RFC WIP PATCH v8 00/13] learn --keep-base & more Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-08  3:57             ` Junio C Hamano
2019-07-19 19:14               ` Junio C Hamano
2019-07-19 21:01                 ` Denton Liu
2019-08-25  9:11             ` [PATCH v9 0/9] rebase: learn --keep-base and improvements on fast-forward behaviour Denton Liu
2019-08-25  9:11               ` [PATCH v9 1/9] t3431: add rebase --fork-point tests Denton Liu
2019-08-25  9:12               ` [PATCH v9 2/9] t3432: test rebase fast-forward behavior Denton Liu
2019-08-25  9:12               ` [PATCH v9 3/9] t3432: distinguish "noop-same" v.s. "work-same" in "same head" tests Denton Liu
2019-08-25  9:12               ` [PATCH v9 4/9] t3432: test for --no-ff's interaction with fast-forward Denton Liu
2019-08-25  9:12               ` [PATCH v9 5/9] rebase: refactor can_fast_forward into goto tower Denton Liu
2019-08-25 13:17                 ` Pratyush Yadav
2019-08-26 23:17                   ` Denton Liu
2019-08-25  9:12               ` [PATCH v9 6/9] rebase: fast-forward --onto in more cases Denton Liu
2019-08-25  9:12               ` [PATCH v9 7/9] rebase: fast-forward --fork-point " Denton Liu
2019-08-25  9:12               ` [PATCH v9 8/9] rebase tests: test linear branch topology Denton Liu
2019-08-25  9:12               ` [PATCH v9 9/9] rebase: teach rebase --keep-base Denton Liu
2019-08-25 22:59                 ` Philip Oakley
2019-08-26 19:37               ` [PATCH v9 0/9] rebase: learn --keep-base and improvements on fast-forward behaviour Junio C Hamano
2019-08-27  5:37               ` [PATCH v10 " Denton Liu
2019-08-27  5:37                 ` [PATCH v10 1/9] t3431: add rebase --fork-point tests Denton Liu
2019-08-27  5:37                 ` [PATCH v10 2/9] t3432: test rebase fast-forward behavior Denton Liu
2019-08-27  5:37                 ` [PATCH v10 3/9] t3432: distinguish "noop-same" v.s. "work-same" in "same head" tests Denton Liu
2019-08-27  5:37                 ` [PATCH v10 4/9] t3432: test for --no-ff's interaction with fast-forward Denton Liu
2019-08-27  8:11                   ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-08-27  5:37                 ` [PATCH v10 5/9] rebase: refactor can_fast_forward into goto tower Denton Liu
2019-08-27  5:37                 ` [PATCH v10 6/9] rebase: fast-forward --onto in more cases Denton Liu
2019-08-27  5:38                 ` [PATCH v10 7/9] rebase: fast-forward --fork-point " Denton Liu
2019-08-27  5:38                 ` [PATCH v10 8/9] rebase tests: test linear branch topology Denton Liu
2019-08-27  5:38                 ` [PATCH v10 9/9] rebase: teach rebase --keep-base Denton Liu
2019-05-08  0:12           ` [RFC WIP PATCH v8 01/13] t3431: add rebase --fork-point tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-08  0:12           ` [RFC WIP PATCH v8 02/13] t3432: test rebase fast-forward behavior Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-08  0:12           ` [RFC WIP PATCH v8 03/13] t3432: distinguish "noop-same" v.s. "work-same" in "same head" tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-08  0:12           ` [RFC WIP PATCH v8 04/13] t3432: test for --no-ff's interaction with fast-forward Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-08  0:12           ` [RFC WIP PATCH v8 05/13] rebase: refactor can_fast_forward into goto tower Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-08  0:12           ` [RFC WIP PATCH v8 06/13] rebase: fast-forward --onto in more cases Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-08  0:12           ` [RFC WIP PATCH v8 07/13] rebase: fast-forward --fork-point " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-08  0:12           ` [RFC WIP PATCH v8 08/13] rebase: teach rebase --keep-base Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-08  0:12           ` [RFC WIP PATCH v8 09/13] rebase tests: test linear branch topology Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-08  0:12           ` [RFC WIP PATCH v8 10/13] rebase: don't rebase linear topology with --fork-point Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-08  0:12           ` [RFC WIP PATCH v8 11/13] rebase: eliminate side-effects from can_fast_forward() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-17 21:16             ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-05-08  0:12           ` [RFC WIP PATCH v8 12/13] rebase: add a should_fast_forward() utility function Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-08  0:12           ` [RFC WIP PATCH v8 13/13] WIP: can_fast_forward() support for --preserve-merges and --rebase-merges Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-17 22:02             ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-04-06 19:44     ` [PATCH v3 0/4] rebase: teach rebase --keep-base Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-06 20:38       ` Denton Liu
2019-04-13 21:10         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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