From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: demerphq <demerphq@gmail.com>,
Brandon Williams <bmwill@google.com>,
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>,
jonathantanmy@google.com, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
David Lang <david@lang.hm>,
"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>
Subject: Re: RFC v3: Another proposed hash function transition plan
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 11:40:22 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170914184022.GB78683@aiede.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1.1709141754240.4132@virtualbox>
Hi,
Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
>> [3] https://www.imperialviolet.org/2017/05/31/skipsha3.html,
>
> I had read this short after it was published, and had missed the updates.
> One link in particular caught my eye:
>
> https://eprint.iacr.org/2012/476
>
> Essentially, the authors demonstrate that using SIMD technology can speed
> up computation by factor 2 for longer messages (2kB being considered
> "long" already). It is a little bit unclear to me from a cursory look
> whether their fast algorithm computes SHA-256, or something similar.
The latter: that paper is about a variant on SHA-256 called SHA-256x4
(or SHA-256x16 to take advantage of newer instructions). It's a
different hash function. This is what I was alluding to at [1].
> As the author of that paper is also known to have contributed to OpenSSL,
> I had a quick look and it would appear that a comment in
> crypto/sha/asm/sha256-mb-x86_64.pl speaking about "lanes" suggests that
> OpenSSL uses the ideas from the paper, even if b783858654 (x86_64 assembly
> pack: add multi-block AES-NI, SHA1 and SHA256., 2013-10-03) does not talk
> about the paper specifically.
>
> The numbers shown in
> https://github.com/openssl/openssl/blob/master/crypto/sha/asm/keccak1600-x86_64.pl#L28
> and in
> https://github.com/openssl/openssl/blob/master/crypto/sha/asm/sha256-mb-x86_64.pl#L17
>
> are sufficiently satisfying.
This one is about actual SHA-256, but computing the hash of multiple
streams in a single funtion call. The paper to read is [2]. We could
probably take advantage of it for e.g. bulk-checkin and index-pack.
Most other code paths that compute hashes wouldn't be able to benefit
from it.
Thanks,
Jonathan
[1] https://public-inbox.org/git/20170616212414.GC133952@aiede.mtv.corp.google.com/
[2] https://eprint.iacr.org/2012/371
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-09-14 18:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-04 1:12 RFC: Another proposed hash function transition plan Jonathan Nieder
2017-03-05 2:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-03-06 0:26 ` brian m. carlson
2017-03-06 18:24 ` Brandon Williams
2017-06-15 10:30 ` Which hash function to use, was " Johannes Schindelin
2017-06-15 11:05 ` Mike Hommey
2017-06-15 13:01 ` Jeff King
2017-06-15 16:30 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-06-15 19:34 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-06-15 21:59 ` Adam Langley
2017-06-15 22:41 ` brian m. carlson
2017-06-15 23:36 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-06-16 0:17 ` brian m. carlson
2017-06-16 6:25 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-06-16 13:24 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-06-16 17:38 ` Adam Langley
2017-06-16 20:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-06-16 21:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-06-16 21:24 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-06-16 21:39 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-06-16 20:42 ` Jeff King
2017-06-19 9:26 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-06-15 21:10 ` Mike Hommey
2017-06-16 4:30 ` Jeff King
2017-06-15 17:36 ` Brandon Williams
2017-06-15 19:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-06-15 19:13 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-03-07 0:17 ` RFC v3: " Jonathan Nieder
2017-03-09 19:14 ` Shawn Pearce
2017-03-09 20:24 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-03-10 19:38 ` Jeff King
2017-03-10 19:55 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-28 4:43 ` [PATCH v4] technical doc: add a design doc for hash function transition Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-29 6:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-29 8:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-29 17:34 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-02 8:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-02 19:41 ` Jason Cooper
2017-10-02 9:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-02 19:23 ` Jason Cooper
2017-10-03 5:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-03 13:08 ` Jason Cooper
2017-10-04 1:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-06 6:28 ` RFC v3: Another proposed hash function transition plan Junio C Hamano
2017-09-08 2:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-08 3:34 ` Jeff King
2017-09-11 18:59 ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-13 12:05 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-09-13 13:43 ` demerphq
2017-09-13 22:51 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-14 18:26 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-09-14 18:40 ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2017-09-14 22:09 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-09-13 23:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-14 18:45 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-09-18 12:17 ` Gilles Van Assche
2017-09-18 22:16 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-09-19 16:45 ` Gilles Van Assche
2017-09-29 13:17 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-09-29 14:54 ` Joan Daemen
2017-09-29 22:33 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-09-30 22:02 ` Joan Daemen
2017-10-02 14:26 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-09-18 22:25 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-26 17:05 ` Jason Cooper
2017-09-26 22:11 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-09-26 22:25 ` [PATCH] technical doc: add a design doc for hash function transition Stefan Beller
2017-09-26 23:38 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-26 23:51 ` RFC v3: Another proposed hash function transition plan Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-02 14:54 ` Jason Cooper
2017-10-02 16:50 ` Brandon Williams
2017-10-02 14:00 ` Jason Cooper
2017-10-02 17:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-02 19:37 ` Jeff King
2017-09-13 16:30 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-13 21:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-13 22:07 ` Stefan Beller
2017-09-13 22:18 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-14 2:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-14 15:23 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-09-14 15:45 ` demerphq
2017-09-14 22:06 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-09-13 22:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-13 22:27 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-14 2:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-14 12:39 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-09-14 16:36 ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-14 18:49 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-15 20:42 ` Philip Oakley
2017-03-05 11:02 ` RFC: " David Lang
[not found] ` <CA+dhYEXHbQfJ6KUB1tWS9u1MLEOJL81fTYkbxu4XO-i+379LPw@mail.gmail.com>
2017-03-06 9:43 ` Jeff King
2017-03-06 23:40 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-03-07 0:03 ` Mike Hommey
2017-03-06 8:43 ` Jeff King
2017-03-06 18:39 ` Jonathan Tan
2017-03-06 19:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-03-06 19:59 ` Brandon Williams
2017-03-06 21:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-07 8:59 ` Jeff King
2017-03-06 18:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-07 18:57 ` Ian Jackson
2017-03-07 19:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-03-08 11:20 ` Ian Jackson
2017-03-08 15:37 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-08 15:40 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-20 5:21 ` Use base32? Jason Hennessey
2017-03-20 5:58 ` Michael Steuer
2017-03-20 8:05 ` Jacob Keller
2017-03-21 3:07 ` Michael Steuer
2017-03-13 9:24 ` RFC: Another proposed hash function transition plan The Keccak Team
2017-03-13 17:48 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-03-13 18:34 ` ankostis
2017-03-17 11:07 ` Johannes Schindelin
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