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From: Brandon Williams <bmwill@google.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, sbeller@google.com, pclouds@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 25/27] attr: store attribute stack in attr_check structure
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 13:54:26 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170125215426.GB83343@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqq1svqc2ww.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com>

On 01/25, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Brandon Williams <bmwill@google.com> writes:
> 
> >> In my mind, the value of having a constant check_attr is primarily
> >> that it gives us a stable pointer to serve as a hashmap key,
> >> i.e. the identifier for each call site, in a later iteration.
> >
> > We didn't really discuss this notion of having the pointer be a key into
> > a hashmap, what sort of information are you envisioning being stored in
> > this sort of hashmap?
> 
> The "entries relevant to this attr_check() call, that is specific to
> the <check_attr instance, the thread> tuple" (aka "what used to be
> called the global attr_stack") we discussed would be the primary
> example.  A thread is likely be looping in a caller that has many
> paths inside a directory, calling a function that has a call to
> attr_check() for each path.  Having something that can use to
> identify the check_attr instance in a stable way, even when the
> inner function is called and returns many times, would allow us to
> populate the "attr stack" just once for the thread when it enters a
> directory for the first time (remember, another thread may be
> executing the same codepath, checking for paths in a different
> directory) and keep using it.  There may be other mechanisms you can
> come up with, so I wouldn't say it is the only valid way, but it is
> a way.  That is why I said:
> 
> >> But all of the above comes from my intuition, and I'll very much
> >> welcome to be proven wrong with an alternative design, or better
> >> yet, a working code based on an alternative design ;-).
> 
> near the end of my message.
> 
> > One issue I can see with this is that the
> > functions which have a static attr_check struct would still not be thread
> > safe if the initialization of the structure isn't surrounded by a mutex
> > itself. ie
> 
> Yes, that goes without saying.  That is why I suggested Stefan to do
> not this:
> 
> > static struct attr_check *check;
> >
> > if (!check)
> >   init(check);
> >
> > would need to be:
> >
> > lock()
> > if (!check)
> >   init(check);
> > unlock();
> 
> but this:
> 
> 	static struct attr_check *check;
> 	init(&check);
> 
> and hide the lock/unlock gymnastics inside the API.  I thought that
> already was in what you inherited from him and started your work
> on top of?

I essentially built off of the series you had while using Stefan's
patches as inspiration, but I don't believe the kind of mechanism you
are describing existed in Stefan's series.  His series had a single lock
for the entire system, only allowing a single caller to be in it at any
given time.  This definitely isn't ideal, hence why I picked it up.

Implementation aside I want to try and nail down what the purpose of
this refactor is.  There are roughly two notions of being "thread-safe".

1. The first is that the subsystem itself is thread safe, that is
   multiple threads can be executing inside the subsystem without stepping
   on each others work.

2. The second is that the object itself is thread safe or that multiple
   threads can use the same object.

I thought that the main purpose of this was to achieve (1) since
currently that is not the case.

-- 
Brandon Williams

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-25 21:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-12 23:53 [PATCH 00/27] Revamp the attribute system; another round Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 01/27] commit.c: use strchrnul() to scan for one line Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 02/27] attr.c: " Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 03/27] attr.c: update a stale comment on "struct match_attr" Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 04/27] attr.c: explain the lack of attr-name syntax check in parse_attr() Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 05/27] attr.c: complete a sentence in a comment Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 06/27] attr.c: mark where #if DEBUG ends more clearly Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 07/27] attr.c: simplify macroexpand_one() Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 08/27] attr.c: tighten constness around "git_attr" structure Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 09/27] attr.c: plug small leak in parse_attr_line() Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 10/27] attr: support quoting pathname patterns in C style Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 11/27] attr.c: add push_stack() helper Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 12/27] Documentation: fix a typo Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 13/27] attr.c: outline the future plans by heavily commenting Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 14/27] attr: rename function and struct related to checking attributes Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 15/27] attr: (re)introduce git_check_attr() and struct attr_check Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 16/27] attr: convert git_all_attrs() to use "struct attr_check" Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 17/27] attr: convert git_check_attrs() callers to use the new API Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 18/27] attr: retire git_check_attrs() API Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 19/27] attr: pass struct attr_check to collect_some_attrs Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 20/27] attr: change validity check for attribute names to use positive logic Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 21/27] attr: use hashmap for attribute dictionary Brandon Williams
2017-01-18 20:20   ` Stefan Beller
2017-01-18 20:23     ` Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 22/27] attr: eliminate global check_all_attr array Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 23/27] attr: remove maybe-real, maybe-macro from git_attr Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 24/27] attr: tighten const correctness with git_attr and match_attr Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 25/27] attr: store attribute stacks in hashmap Brandon Williams
2017-01-13 21:20   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-01-18 20:34     ` Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 18:08       ` Brandon Williams
2017-01-18 20:39   ` Stefan Beller
2017-01-18 20:45     ` Stefan Beller
2017-01-18 20:50     ` Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 26/27] attr: push the bare repo check into read_attr() Brandon Williams
2017-01-12 23:53 ` [PATCH 27/27] attr: reformat git_attr_set_direction() function Brandon Williams
2017-01-15 23:47 ` [PATCH 00/27] Revamp the attribute system; another round Junio C Hamano
2017-01-16  8:10   ` Jeff King
2017-01-23 20:34 ` [PATCH v2 " Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:34   ` [PATCH v2 01/27] commit.c: use strchrnul() to scan for one line Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 02/27] attr.c: " Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 03/27] attr.c: update a stale comment on "struct match_attr" Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 04/27] attr.c: explain the lack of attr-name syntax check in parse_attr() Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 05/27] attr.c: complete a sentence in a comment Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 06/27] attr.c: mark where #if DEBUG ends more clearly Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 07/27] attr.c: simplify macroexpand_one() Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 08/27] attr.c: tighten constness around "git_attr" structure Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 09/27] attr.c: plug small leak in parse_attr_line() Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 10/27] attr: support quoting pathname patterns in C style Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 11/27] attr.c: add push_stack() helper Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 12/27] Documentation: fix a typo Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 13/27] attr.c: outline the future plans by heavily commenting Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 14/27] attr: rename function and struct related to checking attributes Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 15/27] attr: (re)introduce git_check_attr() and struct attr_check Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 16/27] attr: convert git_all_attrs() to use "struct attr_check" Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 17/27] attr: convert git_check_attrs() callers to use the new API Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 18/27] attr: retire git_check_attrs() API Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 19/27] attr: pass struct attr_check to collect_some_attrs Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 20/27] attr: change validity check for attribute names to use positive logic Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 21/27] attr: use hashmap for attribute dictionary Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 22/27] attr: eliminate global check_all_attr array Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 21:11     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 23/27] attr: remove maybe-real, maybe-macro from git_attr Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 24/27] attr: tighten const correctness with git_attr and match_attr Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 25/27] attr: store attribute stack in attr_check structure Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 21:42     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-01-23 22:06       ` Brandon Williams
2017-01-24  1:11         ` Brandon Williams
2017-01-24  2:28           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-01-25 19:57             ` Brandon Williams
2017-01-25 20:10               ` Stefan Beller
2017-01-25 20:14               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-01-25 21:54                 ` Brandon Williams [this message]
2017-01-25 23:19                   ` Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 26/27] attr: push the bare repo check into read_attr() Brandon Williams
2017-01-23 20:35   ` [PATCH v2 27/27] attr: reformat git_attr_set_direction() function Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:01   ` [PATCH v3 00/27] Revamp the attribute system; another round Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:01     ` [PATCH v3 01/27] commit.c: use strchrnul() to scan for one line Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:01     ` [PATCH v3 02/27] attr.c: " Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:01     ` [PATCH v3 03/27] attr.c: update a stale comment on "struct match_attr" Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:01     ` [PATCH v3 04/27] attr.c: explain the lack of attr-name syntax check in parse_attr() Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:01     ` [PATCH v3 05/27] attr.c: complete a sentence in a comment Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:01     ` [PATCH v3 06/27] attr.c: mark where #if DEBUG ends more clearly Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:01     ` [PATCH v3 07/27] attr.c: simplify macroexpand_one() Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:01     ` [PATCH v3 08/27] attr.c: tighten constness around "git_attr" structure Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:01     ` [PATCH v3 09/27] attr.c: plug small leak in parse_attr_line() Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:01     ` [PATCH v3 10/27] attr: support quoting pathname patterns in C style Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:01     ` [PATCH v3 11/27] attr.c: add push_stack() helper Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:01     ` [PATCH v3 12/27] Documentation: fix a typo Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:01     ` [PATCH v3 13/27] attr.c: outline the future plans by heavily commenting Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:01     ` [PATCH v3 14/27] attr: rename function and struct related to checking attributes Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:01     ` [PATCH v3 15/27] attr: (re)introduce git_check_attr() and struct attr_check Brandon Williams
2017-01-30 18:05       ` Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:01     ` [PATCH v3 16/27] attr: convert git_all_attrs() to use "struct attr_check" Brandon Williams
2017-01-28 23:50       ` Stefan Beller
2017-01-29  2:44         ` Brandon Williams
2017-01-30 18:06       ` Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:01     ` [PATCH v3 17/27] attr: convert git_check_attrs() callers to use the new API Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:01     ` [PATCH v3 18/27] attr: retire git_check_attrs() API Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:01     ` [PATCH v3 19/27] attr: pass struct attr_check to collect_some_attrs Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:02     ` [PATCH v3 20/27] attr: change validity check for attribute names to use positive logic Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:02     ` [PATCH v3 21/27] attr: use hashmap for attribute dictionary Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:02     ` [PATCH v3 22/27] attr: eliminate global check_all_attr array Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:02     ` [PATCH v3 23/27] attr: remove maybe-real, maybe-macro from git_attr Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:02     ` [PATCH v3 24/27] attr: tighten const correctness with git_attr and match_attr Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:02     ` [PATCH v3 25/27] attr: store attribute stack in attr_check structure Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:02     ` [PATCH v3 26/27] attr: push the bare repo check into read_attr() Brandon Williams
2017-01-28  2:02     ` [PATCH v3 27/27] attr: reformat git_attr_set_direction() function Brandon Williams
2017-02-02 19:14     ` [PATCH v3 00/27] Revamp the attribute system; another round Junio C Hamano
2017-02-09 17:18       ` Brandon Williams
2017-02-09 19:31         ` Junio C Hamano

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